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I would like to state outright that the original suggestion/title has come to focus primarily on Pokemon ROM Hacks. In essence, disregard my suggestion for all other titles.

^ quoting myself on another page

 

image.thumb.png.c2cd1a25757f60d002ef06cd636282b0.pngFor more information please visit: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247.aspx

If you're on Windows, the characters in the image above will not be allowed in your ROM filenames.

Why this is important... example:

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I don't see a colon on that box. In the event that a restricted character is used in a title, definitely add an alternate name without restricted characters... For the love of easily fetching metadata within LaunchBox, Big Box, and ARC Browser (<3 Android).

 

Speaking of ARC Browser for Android and fetching metadata through LaunchBox DB, unless my ROM filename exactly matches the "Name" section on the DB it will never find it; unsure if this is an ARC Browser issue or DB issue.

image.png.e503e1a4a5bcb0afeebaf9cef23738ba.png The following image displays an "é" in the title for the DB, and in my opinion game titles with diacritical marks should not be used as the main name/title for this English based database. Instead titles with diacritical marks and restricted characters should only be added to "Alternate Name" section IMO.

image.thumb.png.97ae359df246abe35d7b6d7cacb515b5.pngIf you disagree about the "English based DB" part above, should we change the name to: 

ポケットモンスター アルタイル

?

Obviously, Japanese is allowed in filenames:

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I will add, if you search the DB online, using a spelling without diacritical marks, even if that spelling is listed as an "Alternate Name", your search results will only include titles that that have the non-diacritical spelling in the "Name" field. The same happens if we switch it around and query the DB with a diacritical spelling of the title, all the titles without diacritical marks (even if they are listed in the field of "Alternate Name") will not appear in your search results. 

After testing the above, to no surprise, when you're contributing by submitting a new game or you're shown a "new game" in your moderation queue, you are usually given a list generated by the DB and the same thing as above happens with the results generated, when detecting "similar names/games". Which leads me to believe that the "Alternate Name" field is never used in generating results for your query... @Jason Carr do you recall if this is intended? Is this a bug?

I have yet to test this using spelling of titles with characters that are restricted by windows for filenames. I would assume the results to be same; off the top of my head I can't recall a game title to test with. Anyone know of a game title or want to test it out and report back?

Finally, this is why I suggest the "Alternate Name" and "Name" format written in the above comment. Primarily to make the DB search as simple as possible for users, since we are not likely to see a change in how the DB search results are generated any time soon.

 

edit: Thinking about this a bit more, If the DB doesn't take into account the "Alternate Name" field at all when you submit a query, it must be a real pain in the ass for people from other countries when searching for a game that has a different title for their region. 

 

edit 2: examples

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Colons are ignored when scraping, no need to remove them from the name. I don't see the point of the changes. The accent on the é and the colon is on every English database and official page of those games. 

Also, you're wrong, alternate names are used when scrapping names, that's the whole point of them. Just search "Project Zero" and you'll get Fatal Frame games every time. It's a bad idea to butcher the official name for ALL people in the event of a small number of users that have poorly named games.


I'm rejecting all those name changes.

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@Suhrvivor please explain why this is happening:

https://youtu.be/ya9smvnunVY 

The official page for the majority of pokemon rom hacks is here:

https://www.pokecommunity.com/forumdisplay.php?fn=rom-hacks-studio

^where most (not all) devs publish their projects.

Here is 1 proper DB that is not that accurate:

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/

Here are some "DBs" with varying degrees of accuracy:

https://www.gbahacks.com

https://pokemonromhack.com/

Here are a few alternative sources one may check:

https://centrorpg.com/index.php?action=forum

https://www.pokemoner.com/

https://pokemonromhacks.com/

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Serious???????..You are hanging up because  you follow  Pokemon..Not realizing I can post hundreds of links  posting alternatives for DB.

 

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I don't have a problem if the devs of those games decide to name them differently, just put the name they chose on the db, just don't touch the names of the official games for no reason.

 

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13 minutes ago, rexryan said:

Serious???????..You are hanging up because  you follow  Pokemon..Not realizing I can post hundreds of links  posting alternatives for DB.

 

That is my main focus. Honestly, I only care about rom hacks. I have no reason to alter games in the DB I know literally nothing about, that would be irresponsible of me. Exception being the strike series.

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Actually this should be a private group chat..The LB group I couldn't understand why we need to see disagreements on the DB. 

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1 minute ago, Vloshko said:

That is my main focus. Honestly, I only care about rom hacks.

Good luck there..Hacks are HAcks....Everyday someone comes up with one,,It's like a dog chasing his tail..It never ends...

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14 minutes ago, Suhrvivor said:

I don't have a problem if the devs of those games decide to name them differently, just put the name they chose on the db, just don't touch the names of the official games for no reason.

 

Of course not

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I am sure it it for you, but it doesn't justify  why it should make it into a group trying to achieve a complete DB of official games.. Good luck..with your project..

 

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12 minutes ago, rexryan said:

I am sure it it for you, but it doesn't justify  why it should make it into a group trying to achieve a complete DB of official games.. Good luck..with your project..

 

That aside, this video displays the main issue here, which illuminates a possible bug or initial coding mistake when using the web-based DB which is what I was asking @Jason Carr about in my second post to this thread:

Which @rexryan, @Suhrvivor , and others should maybe, be concerned about. Due to how it affects the generated list shown when adding a new game or the list provided of similar named games when tackling your moderation que. And most importantly for users of the DB who may simply be searching for information on a title.

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10 minutes ago, Vloshko said:

Of course not

You already managed to change the names of most of the official games, please change them back to what they were. Fix your screwed up.

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4 minutes ago, Suhrvivor said:

You already managed to change the names of most of the official games, please change them back to what they were. Fix your screwed up.

On it.

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i also rejected a fair few.. please please just leave the DB alone, and only make valid changes, if you unsure ASK before making changes like that. 

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I don't know who is responsible but someone is like uploading 30 gameplay images for one pokemon romhack, I was under the impression that 4 gameplay images are enough or am I wrong?

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1 hour ago, Mr. RetroLust said:

I don't know who is responsible but someone is like uploading 30 gameplay images for one pokemon romhack, I was under the impression that 4 gameplay images are enough or am I wrong?

yeah thats an excessive ammount.

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