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hi Guys - I have Shelled win10 so it goes straight into Bigbox... 

I am using an iPac and shifted JoyUP and JoyDOWN to volume controls... Joy Left is Back and Joy Right is Pause.... both Joy Left and Right work, however Up and Down (Volume up and Down) doesnt... If i taskmanager > Explorer so my start bar etc all loads up then works... I assume something related to controling volume is stopped when i shelled to go straight to Bigbox.. 

How do i get bigbox AND whatever this volume program is to start?

thank you

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Just leave Win10 start as normal and put Big Box in your startup folder. Then both explorer and Big Box run at PC start up an in the correct order for the volume automation to work. You may have a second or two that you see the desktop when doing it this way though.

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Hmm - ok, i was thinking thats probably my only way. If i do this, and because it is in  an arcade cab I want no sign of windows at all.. So i guess i can easily hide taskbar, black the screen, hide the bin etc... Cheers mate

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You can make Bigbox.exe be the actual shell for Windows, so it never loads the taskbar or any other thing.
I have in my set a script as the shell, that launches Bigbox, and some other features/tools, and then if I close Bigbox (without restarting or turning off the machine) or switch to Launchbox, it launches explorer.exe automatically.

If the above scenario helps you, let me know and I"ll share the lines with you.

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Well, here's a not so perfect solution that may be better in your use case. You can compile into autohotkey exe or rename the autohotkey exe and script ahk to the same name. Use a script like this as your shell, you will still see the taskbar flash in my very quick tests but might be more to your liking and allow explorer active for volume control.

#NoEnv  
#SingleInstance force
SetWorkingDir %A_ScriptDir%

;Load Explorer
Run, explorer.exe

; Load Blank GUI to cover taskbar loading
Gui,Color,Black,000000
Gui, -Caption
TempVar := A_ScreenHeight +100
Gui,Show, h%TempVar% w%A_ScreenWidth%

; Load Bigbox
Run, <path to BigBox.exe>
WinWaitActive, ahk_exe BigBox.exe

; Sleep for x ms before exiting script
Sleep, 5000
ExitApp

 

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thanks Kondorito and Cointos, they sound like they would work nicely.

however in the last hour i have i stumbled accross this : 

 

 

I did everything apart from the shell at the end due to the volume problem. However, something odd, if i dragged the Taskbar to the right of the screen it would never flash up for 5 seconds, it would stay hidden!.. Perfect.. I just put bigbox in my start up and its all good. The only sign of windows is when it briefly auto logs in but i have my logo as my avatar so its looking ok.

Another thing which seems really handy is changing the power button to hibernate instead of power off. It boots up within seconds nicely. I have tried losing the power from the wall too and it keeps the last state nicely on the hard drive. 

 

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Glad you sorted it out.
My method does not involve the registry, but the Group Policy (gpedit.msc) and going to User Configuration \ Admin Templates \ System \ Custom User Interface.
In regards of the volume control, I have a 3rd party tool that launches in the shell script that emulates Windows regular volume control and shortcuts, and it even has skins, so I set the retro one that goes along nicely.

Take care!

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8 minutes ago, floodie said:

could i take a look at your 3rd party volume tool please?. Are you saying it can work even if Explorer hasnt loaded? i.e: if i shell it

 

Sure, it is called 3RVX, and yes, it works as intended without the need of an active explorer process.

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1 minute ago, floodie said:

Not had a chance to check but looking at it on google, if i check the "start at windows start up" does this mean its started BEFORE explorer starts?

No, because if I am not mistaken, the startup processes are triggered by explorer. You should check just in case, but I think that adding stuff in the Startup folder but not loading explorer as the shell will not do anything with it.

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Yes i thought so too. So, mine is pretty much working perfect now leaving explorer, hidden start bar and recycle bin, black desktop, all hidden... If i shelled it would there be an advantage? The only thing i can see is quicker loading?.. if thats not significant then ill just leave it the way it is. 

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