C-Beats thanks for responding the answer to your first question is the games launch fine in LaunchBox it is only Big Box that is causing the problem answer #2 it is just about every platform but my mame arcade roms all of my roms are in a zip folder for less space and they have always worked perfectly with retroarch by itself I know all my cores and paths are good because I have been running retroarch by itself for quite some time now with no issues I just checked the retroarch log and there is nothing there C-Beats with your questions it got me thinking about something when I imported my roms into LaunchBox I chose the option to have LaunchBox copy the rom files to the LaunchBox games folder do you think I should start from scratch again and when I import the roms have it just keep them in their current location. The main reason why I am giving LaunchBox and big box a try is it will be easier for the kids to use, and it looks so much better than just the plain old retroarch screen