Just as an after thought off topic, it would be cool to see a 'Default' option in the big box settings menu , theres so so many settings all are useful but hard to roll back to default when a user makes a messup
I have solved the problem finally!! on my desktop and laptop there was an update called
Kb97362 that has something to do with windows 10 video driver agent. I un-installed that and its working now after 9 test boots.
And the CRAZY thing is too that ive been installing 3 versions of launchbox on my laptop too not just my desktop and the laptop too evetually stops launching the software that has no controllers connected. v4.7 seems to be okay but that aint got big box