My apologies that definitely came out wrong as I wrote it during the frustration after updating. I'm not all trying to blame the software, my pc is 10 years old and trying to maintain almost 12000 games. On top of that I just slapped a newer video card in it. It's just when I get everything sorted I always forget to uncheck auto updates, it always brings new issues for me for some unknown reason (this is fresh windows 10 install as well) and I'm most certain it's the rig not launchbox. LOL This is why I never comment in all the years I've been here, I really have nothing new to add to anything