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15 minutes ago, Vader said:
@TechBoi, Like @neil9000 said, the games datebase is a community effort, so not everything is going to be perfect, nor should we expect it to be. We have to take it for what it is, and if you want to upload a wheel with the correct file name to fix an issue, than I guess you can do so.
@Jason Carr is doing an awesome job and I tip my hat off to him for all he has done on this project. Keep it up, Jason!
I hear you and I'm by no means shitting on the work in progress android beta but for a paid app/sub I expect a little more effort for developers to fix these sorts of things and not lean or depend on the paying community to fix such things. I've also asked how and or where this shared database is located or accessed.
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31 minutes ago, Vader said:
@TechBoi you might be getting a lot of Japanese games because no-into romsets have games from different regions i.e. Japan, Europe, etc. Most games from these other regions are just duplicates of North American games, but some games are exclusive to just a particular region. It is recommended that you clean your romsets to remove non-North American region duplicates so that only North American region games are left. Once this is done, you can then add back any region-specific games you might want in your collection. This should eliminate a lot of the Japanese games.
I agree with @neil9000 that there seems to be an issue with the file naming convention used on some of the wheel images, which is probably causing Japan wheel logos to display. After looking closer into both the games you mentioned, Kung Fu and Kid Icarus, I noticed that both have North American wheel images available but the file names for these wheels lack a region name i.e. (North America). Since those images lack the region designation, this could be why those images are not downloading and displaying properly. Changing the rom file name won't fix this either, because I believe that the scraper looks for the files for the region you specify. I don't know if something can be done about this, but I think that in the meantime, the easiest solution is to download those wheels that are incorrect and manually copy them to the wheel folder.
Just my 2 cents
Thanks and this is what we did but all except rename them to only show as (USA) only marked titles but like you said in the 2nd half of your post even renaming them doesn't fix this issue at hand.
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11 hours ago, neil9000 said:
The thing is i dont think it is a "issue" per se, its just a lack of images, or poorly named images in our database. That database is completely user supported by the community, so if you feel that some specific images are missing then you are of course free to add them to the database. At the end of the day we cant scrape images we dont have in our database, or if a image is named incorrectly.
Where is this community database located and how do we add to it? I don't mind helping where I can and I apologize for my frustrations with this earlier. Not trying to be a dick I just let my frustrations get the best of me and for that I apologize. 🤜🏽🤛🏽✌🏽
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12 hours ago, neil9000 said:
My Kung Fu has the correct clear logo.
My Kid Icarus also has the Japanese logo.
My Smash TV is the same as yours also,
but that is simply because we do not have a clear logo for the NES version in our database, the below images are all we have.
In the case of Kid Icarus, we have three clear logos on the database, one labelled (Europe), one labelled (Japan), and one more in English, but with no region attached. So my best guess, as we dont have a logo specifically for (USA), or (North America) a random one is chosen.
As for Kung Fu, we have two clear logos for that in our database,
The Japanese one is labelled (japan), while the English one has no region attached again, so again i'm gonna assume as there is no (USA), or (North America) logo's a random one is downloaded.
@Jason Carr this is happening to @neil9000 also as seen in his post I quoted. To answer your question of which device I'm using it's Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3. Neil9000 can you confirm how many Japanese titles you get in the Sega Master System ROM Set? This one has many Japanese titles for me vs other system rom sets.
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I've given examples of multiple different issues going on and you're focusing on one in particular. Sorry for the confusion but there are in some instances different issues at hand here.
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2 minutes ago, neil9000 said:
"box art font" being the part i was referring to (and font possibly being a typo of front), when you say box art, i assumed you meant box art, which looked just fine.
Its stated here exactly like I wrote it. All roms font look and retain a font similar to original box art fonts and Smash was the only one in Just the NES set of roms that I found this way doesn't mean other rom sets aren't doing the same thing.
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7 minutes ago, neil9000 said:
The thing is i dont think it is a "issue" per se, its just a lack of images, or poorly named images in our database. That database is completely user supported by the community, so if you feel that some specific images are missing then you are of course free to add them to the database. At the end of the day we cant scrape images we dont have in our database, or if a image is named incorrectly.
It's broken in a way that even if you change the title name to reflect it the "correct" way the scrapper still doesn't fix it example "Kid Icarus (USA)" it will still be a Japanese title text after deleting and re scrapping rom folder content.
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3 minutes ago, neil9000 said:
The thing is i dont think it is a "issue" per se, its just a lack of images, or poorly named images in our database. That database is completely user supported by the community, so if you feel that some specific images are missing then you are of course free to add them to the database. At the end of the day we cant scrape images we dont have in our database, or if a image is named incorrectly.
OMG dude it's a paid service for the full version. It's an issue with YOUR service you recognize it no other platform has this issue make an effort to fix it lol all I'm saying. Instead you'd rather make piss poor excuses. 🤦♂️
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51 minutes ago, neil9000 said:
Also it should be noted that you said box art was incorrect, well going on your images that isn't true, it's the clear logo's that were incorrect, so any previous help you received may of been wrong as people would of been looking at the box art, not the clear logo.
Also it should be noted that as a matter of fact my 1st post about this was on October 10th and here's a snapshot of my post talking about exactly what I have been saying all along and nothing about the cover art being an issue. 😂
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41 minutes ago, neil9000 said:
Also it should be noted that you said box art was incorrect, well going on your images that isn't true, it's the clear logo's that were incorrect, so any previous help you received may of been wrong as people would of been looking at the box art, not the clear logo.
lol look you seem to rather want to pass the buck on other things causing the issue at hand here rather than admit to the issue being yours. I'm bringing examples and facts to you guys and all I hear are excuses how it's not your issue when it obviously is. I don't know when or where I stated it was a cover art issue or maybe it was both but yes there is a title issue and we can move on to Sega Master System so you can see how jacked this one is too? No other FE or scraper has these issues and for a paid software I'd expect a better experience than this. I've given examples where it's obviously effecting both scenarios.
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43 minutes ago, neil9000 said:
My Kung Fu has the correct clear logo.
My Kid Icarus also has the Japanese logo.
My Smash TV is the same as yours also,
but that is simply because we do not have a clear logo for the NES version in our database, the below images are all we have.
In the case of Kid Icarus, we have three clear logos on the database, one labelled (Europe), one labelled (Japan), and one more in English, but with no region attached. So my best guess, as we dont have a logo specifically for (USA), or (North America) a random one is chosen.
As for Kung Fu, we have two clear logos for that in our database,
The Japanese one is labelled (japan), while the English one has no region attached again, so again i'm gonna assume as there is no (USA), or (North America) logo's a random one is downloaded.
OK well those were just a few examples from NES. Sega Master System has a ton of titles with this issue.
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On 10/25/2021 at 8:54 AM, Jason Carr said:
@TechBoi I ran another test this morning, again completely fresh and imported the entire NES No-Intro set. Once again there were no image discrepancies. Even with the exact examples you gave previously, the current North American images were downloaded. Obviously we need to identify whatever is different between your situation and mine. Can you send me a list of the file names from your No-Intro set?
Just sent you a couple file naming lists in DM.
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On 10/25/2021 at 8:54 AM, Jason Carr said:
@TechBoi I ran another test this morning, again completely fresh and imported the entire NES No-Intro set. Once again there were no image discrepancies. Even with the exact examples you gave previously, the current North American images were downloaded. Obviously we need to identify whatever is different between your situation and mine. Can you send me a list of the file names from your No-Intro set?
Can you show me a screenshot of Nintendo Entertainment System specifically titles Kid Icarus, Kung-fu, and Smash T. V.? Smash doesn't retain the Original box art font like all other roms do and then Kid Icarus and Kung-fu will not change from Asian to English Title name font no matter how I edit the title naming scheme.
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4 hours ago, Jason Carr said:
Where are you downloading ROMs with badly formatted names? There really should only be one type of ROM set that anyone should be downloading these days: No-Intro sets (at least for cartridge based systems). You can get them easily from archive.org. What set are you using?
Why would it only effect launch box wheel view and not the others though?
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4 hours ago, Jason Carr said:
Where are you downloading ROMs with badly formatted names? There really should only be one type of ROM set that anyone should be downloading these days: No-Intro sets (at least for cartridge based systems). You can get them easily from archive.org. What set are you using?
Official No-Intro Roms Set from archive.org
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So why does retroarch have no problem with this file naming format and it only affects the wheel View in lb?
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If I told your scraper that I want to scrape only North America it should be smart enough to know that even though my file has multiple regions that I've chosen North America as my default naming scheme.
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3 minutes ago, neil9000 said:
Region, or any other data other than the actual game name, should always be inside parenthesis, so for example Actraiser (USA) will be seen as Actraiser, and the USA as it was bracketed, is absorbed and logged, but removed from the UI itself. A game called Actraiser (USA) jp would be very different, as the jp would be included in the actual game name, and could confuse the scraper, and metadata as to the region.
It's also of course possible that none of this is the problem and it may be a issue, just wanted to point out naming is very important.
But so what if the file is the world version and may have multiple regions listed in the file name? What does launch box scraper choose then?
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5 minutes ago, C0ntrA said:
Could be variable depending on the system being emulated etc. But the basics to look for would be the title for the game/file name, and an example of that would be something like say...Super Nintendo for example. So let's say you just downloaded Super Mario World (of course because you own it *cough*), the file would look something like SMW.sfc ,SuperMarioW.sfc, or SuperMarioWorld(USA).sfc...etc etc, looks clean and such right? Yes.
But you could find one like SuperMarioWorld(J).sfc...Now that would be the japanese version and Launchbox will identify it with the japanese super famicom title and boxart; the game itself will also of course be the japanese version when played.
Anyway, to test this. Find one of your problem games in Launchbox, then exit and try to find that rom in your storage, now look at the file name. If you notice something like what I had posted above, you should be able to "rename" that file so that Launchbox will see it as the region of your preference.
Sounds like you are newer to this scene, as far as front ends and emulation goes. I am as well! Sure I have played with emulators back when they were a new thing, but it's not until you try to make things pretty (ie front ends) that your journey for emulation expertise starts!
I have only been at it for about a month now, and due to my frustrations with other less than user friendly front ends, I have obtained a lot of learned knowledge along the way, as will you.
Welcome to another hobby
Nah I'm not new to the scene but launch boxes scraping metadata is kind of retarded so what it was is I had multiple regions in the file name and it's like launch boxes scraper only wanted to see either the US or no region in the title name at all.
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That's dumb...
If US in the name, and u selected NA...their scraper should be smarter lol
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23 minutes ago, C0ntrA said:
Did you check all your roms in question via your storage drive? There are no additional characters following their names such as "j/eu" etc? I would think that you could simply rename the ones that aren't correctly identified in Launchbox.
Again...I haven't read the entire thread, so I am not sure if you had done this already.
I mean, just because a downloaded set states NA only, doesn't mean it won't have its potential issues.
Nah I hear ya. So what should the file names look like? Just the title name or should I see anything else?
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1 hour ago, C0ntrA said:
Excuse my ignorance as I haven't read the entire thread...
But it sounds to me like you have other rom versions in your set (other regions).
I assume this because I recently scanned all of my snes roms (NA/USA) and everything looked correct. I then scanned my super famicom roms under snes (since we don't have a famicom section) and the process seems to have altered "some" of the NA titles to japanese...(I assume that perhaps I had japanese versions of those NA games and because I scanned following NA, the japanese titles had overwritten the NA ones where applicable because it was scanned more recently (after snes).
Not a huge deal really, but hopefully it's in the agenda to add categories for the "funky stuff" like famicom etc. Or another solution could be to allow a user to select which version of a title in their library to show under the wheel.
I assume your friend tried with the exact same rom set as you?
Side note: Why no scummV yet?
Yes he did but the rom sets are official no-intro rom sets with NA Region only set. 🤷🏻♂️
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56 minutes ago, Jason Carr said:
The only important thing is just making sure that you remove all of the images and the data files. You can do that manually through a file browser if you want.
Right but what is the file path to get to this folder?
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7 hours ago, Jason Carr said:
It seems like your "Region to Prioritize" setting might be set to something other than "North America". I just tested a fresh install, imported NES, and I do not get any of the incorrect images from your screenshot. That setting is available when you perform imports, and when you force download missing images. It's then saved to the platform so that any background downloads use the same settings.
The only other possibility that I can think of is that the previous images are not getting fully deleted in your testing.
Definitely not the region to prioritize. Always have this set to North America. How would you suggest I wipe out my library on LaunchBox and restart with a clean slate? Just clear and delete storage cache, uninstall app, re-download and re-import games? Pretty sure I've tried this already and I have another friend on a different android device experiencing the same thing both of us it's only effecting the wheel view.
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