Machtendo No-Intro ROM Parse 6.5

It's a fantastic Script!!! 🤯🥳🙌🤩 Right now I was doing that organization but manually.

A question. Do you plan to do something similar for other packs like TOSEC or Redump? I understand the complexity of doing it (especially with TOSEC), but I guess dreaming is free... 😄

Edited May 5, 2023 by MrDeKat

1 hour ago, MrDeKat said:

It's a fantastic Script!!! 🤯🥳🙌🤩 Right now I was doing that organization but manually.

A question. Do you plan to do something similar for other packs like TOSEC or Redump? I understand the complexity of doing it (especially with TOSEC), but I guess dreaming is free... 😄

Much appreciated!

Unfortunately, I don't have plans to do TOSEC or Redump at this point - I wouldn't rule it out for the future though. Most of my disk-based stuff is curated, and I just don't have full sets to work with (and probably not even storage, honestly).

I do plan to work more on this one though - while it seems to work really well, I still find things that I feel like need to be moved, so I add to the script as I go. I'd also like to make it easy to "undo" moves and update sets.

Why are netherlands and greece in the other category and not in europe?

3 hours ago, Klopjero said:

Why are netherlands and greece in the other category and not in europe?

That's a good question - I seem to remember there being a reason for that due to language, but I can't find anything in No-Intro's documentation. I think I may have based that decision on this snippet from their naming convention documentation (https://wiki.no-intro.org/index.php?title=Naming_Convention#Region):

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"If a game is released in 2 or more European countries the flag (Europe) will be used. The flag (Asia) will be used if the target regions are multiple Asian countries and the game is different from the Japanese release."

So maybe I should revisit this? It would only apply to games that were exclusive to those two countries specifically, but I do want this script to be as accurate as possible. Mexico is also a North American country, but is it's own minor release region I think due to language. I'm open to suggestions!

@MrDeKat I also just happened to read that Redump adopted No-intro's naming convention in 2009, so it's possible that this script would be compatible with that set. I would recommend commenting out the Regional Bias section before trying it, just to save yourself some storage.

Edited May 8, 2023 by machjas

I've been testing (with some modification) and I found it very useful. I have detected it generates a file called "Translations". I think it's because of the symbol ">" on the line 129.

 

2 hours ago, machjas said:

@MrDeKat I also just happened to read that Redump adopted No-intro's naming convention in 2009, so it's possible that this script would be compatible with that set. I would recommend commenting out the Regional Bias section before trying it, just to save yourself some storage.

Fantastic news. 🙌 As soon as I finish organizing No-Intro collection, I'll try it out with Redump.

 

2 hours ago, machjas said:

So maybe I should revisit this? It would only apply to games that were exclusive to those two countries specifically, but I do want this script to be as accurate as possible. Mexico is also a North American country, but is it's own minor release region I think due to language. I'm open to suggestions!

From a personal point of view, due to the language and the few games from Latin America, the games from Argentina and Mexico (I think there's only 2 games), I include them witch Spain Region (and therefore of Europe). Also, there's a Sega SG-1000 game with New Zealand Region. I don't know if it would go with Australia 🤔.

@MrDeKat I believe No-Intro lumps Australia and New Zealand in with Europe

17 hours ago, machjas said:

That's a good question - I seem to remember there being a reason for that due to language, but I can't find anything in No-Intro's documentation. I think I may have based that decision on this snippet from their naming convention documentation (https://wiki.no-intro.org/index.php?title=Naming_Convention#Region😞

So maybe I should revisit this? It would only apply to games that were exclusive to those two countries specifically, but I do want this script to be as accurate as possible. Mexico is also a North American country, but is it's own minor release region I think due to language. I'm open to suggestions!

It seems awfully arbitrary, geographically these countries lie in europe so it would follow that they fall into that region.

Australia should fall in the other section, unless ofcourse its a misspelling of austria. 

I agree, it does seem arbitrary. I imagine 99% of the games released in either of those countries would have been the European or World releases. Maybe whenever there was a Greece or Netherlands exclusive they were treated as separate minor regions? I'll look back at the No-Intro documentation and try to clarify - I'm completely open to making the change if I've just misinterpreted the naming convention.

You would think Australia and New Zealand would fall in the "Other" section, but No-Intro is pretty clear about including them with Europe. You and I can look at a map as some average Joe and we can decide what countries belong in which region in a way that makes sense to us. We just have to keep in mind that, as arbitrary as they may be, these decisions were made by video game companies over decades trying to localize and distribute games in the most cost-effective way they could.

Australia is included in Europe, cause the australian games of 8 and 16 bits, used the same version that was used in European countries: PAL.

For example, the European versions of the NES console could be two types:
- PAL-A, for UK, Italy and Australia.
- PAL-B, for the reast of European countries.

Now, I don't know the reason why Netherlands and Greece is out of Europe. I don't see much point in it, cause I read they used the PAL versions. For example, for NES, there were French games with the manual in Dutch, so I understand that those French games were also used in Netherlands.