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Main question I'm hoping to get advice on today, and I know I've managed to get this right in the past, but just cannot figure out at the moment is:

How can I choose what images display when going down the game wheels in BB? I want to have the front box art show at top & either gameplay screenshot or video (depending on system) shown at bottom. Only the systems I want videos on are showing how I like, the others all keep showing 2 box front images & no screenshots and for some odd reason 1 shows the clear logos (same as wheel) + the front box art

And this isn't extremely important because there are only a couple of the early TRS-80 games I'd like to try, but does anyone know anything about a straightforward way to emulate them?? I've had no luck so far, but I have been using VCC for the "Color Computer" line of games. Really sucks it has no save states though or no clear way to save games. Wish there was a retroarch core or more traditional to console method of emulation for those

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10 hours ago, stevaside said:

Main question I'm hoping to get advice on today, and I know I've managed to get this right in the past, but just cannot figure out at the moment is:

How can I choose what images display when going down the game wheels in BB? I want to have the front box art show at top & either gameplay screenshot or video (depending on system) shown at bottom. Only the systems I want videos on are showing how I like, the others all keep showing 2 box front images & no screenshots and for some odd reason 1 shows the clear logos (same as wheel) + the front box art

And this isn't extremely important because there are only a couple of the early TRS-80 games I'd like to try, but does anyone know anything about a straightforward way to emulate them?? I've had no luck so far, but I have been using VCC for the "Color Computer" line of games. Really sucks it has no save states though or no clear way to save games. Wish there was a retroarch core or more traditional to console method of emulation for those

It would probably help people to help you if you specified what theme you are actually using, and also show some images of what you see. Its probably a image priorities issue, but not knowing the theme being used it could be that the theme is programmed to be the way you see it and no other way, but i cant say for sure without the important detail of the theme being used.

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3 hours ago, neil9000 said:

It would probably help people to help you if you specified what theme you are actually using, and also show some images of what you see. Its probably a image priorities issue, but not knowing the theme being used it could be that the theme is programmed to be the way you see it and no other way, but i cant say for sure without the important detail of the theme being used.

I'm just using the default theme AFAIK with platform images I chose to show in background. MAME is the only one that's currently looking the way I want, (I put marquee images to use in my clearlogo folder for the wheel, cabinets in my box front art folder & videos of each game playing below cabinets) All other systems I wanted the upper image to show box front & lower gameplay screenshots, but instead it shows double box art (as pictured in the NES image)

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17 minutes ago, stevaside said:

I'm just using the default theme AFAIK with platform images I chose to show in background. MAME is the only one that's currently looking the way I want, (I put marquee images to use in my clearlogo folder for the wheel, cabinets in my box front art folder & videos of each game playing below cabinets) All other systems I wanted the upper image to show box front & lower gameplay screenshots, but instead it shows double box art (as pictured in the NES image)

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For me that bottom image is the game video snap, so i assume you dont have any videos so its falling back to a image type. So after removing a video i see it displays a Screenshot - Title Screen for me. Looking in my priorities in Launchbox Title screen is my top preference in the screenshot priority section. 

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So Bigbox is falling back to screenshots if no video and you must have Box - Front checked in that section, and has a higher priority than actual screenshots, why you have done that in the screenshots section i dont know, but you need to either remove Box - Front completely, or move it further down the priority list.

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1 hour ago, neil9000 said:

For me that bottom image is the game video snap, so i assume you dont have any videos so its falling back to a image type. So after removing a video i see it displays a Screenshot - Title Screen for me. Looking in my priorities in Launchbox Title screen is my top preference in the screenshot priority section. 

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So Bigbox is falling back to screenshots if no video and you must have Box - Front checked in that section, and has a higher priority than actual screenshots, why you have done that in the screenshots section i dont know, but you need to either remove Box - Front completely, or move it further down the priority list.

 

 
Okay tried that...actually 5 different ways in priorities settings & no luck at all. All either still showed 2 boxes or 2 screenshots Heres what happened for each combination, the / means checked & they are in order I put them in menu:
#1 (Showed 2 box fronts)
BOXFRONT PRIORITIES: 
/Box-Front
Screenshot - Gameplay
 
SCREENSHOT PRIORITIES:
/Box-Front
/Screenshot - Gameplay
#2 (All box fronts)
BOXFRONT PRIORITIES:
/Box-Front
/Screenshot - Gameplay
 
SCREENSHOT PRIORITIES:
/Box-Front
/Screenshot - Gamplay
 
#3 (All box fronts)
BOXFRONT PRIORITIES: 
/Box-Front
Screenshot - Gameplay
 
SCREENSHOT PRIORITIES:
/Box-Front
/Screenshot - Gameplay
#4 (2 Screenshots)
BOXFRONT PRIORITIES: 
/Box-Front
 
SCREENSHOT PRIORITIES:
/Screenshot - Gameplay
 
#5 (2 Box fronts)
 
BOXFRONT PROPERTIES
Everything unchecked
 
SCREENSHOT PRIORITIES:
/Box-Front
/Screenshot - Gameplay
 
 
This is real exhausting for something that should ideally be as simple as "Select image type 1, select image type 2"  5 seconds. done

 

 

 

 

 

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Just tried it a 6th way that gave 2 screenshots..well mainly that is, until I decided to scroll through other systems instead of the NES I kept testing it on...And I found out that although the NES, TG16 & others show double images, some platforms like Odyssey2 & Visual Pinball throw a bunch of mixed images. As I scroll down those, sometimes it's double screenshots, sometimes it'll show a clear logo up top & a screenshot below & other times it'll show box art & screenshots......No idea of what's going on here, but getting a little tiring going through all this.

 

And just to mention, before I started checking all this all Big Box, I looked at every single image for every platform in Launchbox: Clear logo/screenshot gameplay & box front & they were all correct, none missing)

#6 (2 screenshots)
BOXFRONT PRIORITIES: 
/Box-Front
/Screenshot - Gameplay
 
SCREENSHOT PRIORITIES:
/Screenshot - Gameplay
/Box-Front
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13 minutes ago, neil9000 said:

Number 4 is the correct one, all the others are the opposite of what i said to do. If you are getting two screenshots there that is because you dont have a box - front so its falling back to another image type based on your priorities for your Box - Front priorities.

Ok well I tried it again & this time noticed there was a blank field at the top of the box front priorties that was checked too. So I uncheck it, load up BB again & now see that the NES games are finally displaying how I wanted, Top image = box front, bottom image = Gameplay screenshot. So I feel all relieved only to check other consoles & besides a couple other systems, the majority of everything is a COMPLETE MESS.

Arcade is showing videos at bottom, but nothing at the top now. No box art or screenshot...Other systems are randomly showing double screenshots, an extra clear logo image at top & screenshot at bottom, etc etc

Ready to rip my hair out now

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Well Arcade doesnt use box - front, it uses advertisement flyers, so if you dont have those checked under your box - front priorities then you wont see them. This is why the priorities are there in the first place, you can add/remove as well as reorder them as you see fit. I cant tell you what to select for your specific build, check the image types you want per image type, in the order that you would like to see them. It's quite straight forward, only want to see box front or flyers for arcade and nothing else where a box is supposed to show, then just check those two image types under the Box - Front image priorities and anywhere a box is shown only those two image types will be shown. Same for screenshot priorities, uncheck anything that isnt a screenshot and arrange the remaining screenshot types in the order of your preference.

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On 12/8/2020 at 1:23 PM, neil9000 said:

Well Arcade doesnt use box - front, it uses advertisement flyers, so if you dont have those checked under your box - front priorities then you wont see them. This is why the priorities are there in the first place, you can add/remove as well as reorder them as you see fit. I cant tell you what to select for your specific build, check the image types you want per image type, in the order that you would like to see them. It's quite straight forward, only want to see box front or flyers for arcade and nothing else where a box is supposed to show, then just check those two image types under the Box - Front image priorities and anywhere a box is shown only those two image types will be shown. Same for screenshot priorities, uncheck anything that isnt a screenshot and arrange the remaining screenshot types in the order of your preference.

Yea it rly does sound straightforward, but apparently it's as not as easy as you'd think sometimes. 

Up until then MAME has always in the past shown cabinet art like I wished if I put cabinet images in the box folder.

I only had gameplay checked in screenshots & only box front checked in box priorities, yet every platform gave me random results. Some were fine, some showed clear logos in place of boxes, some double screenshots.....No matter what ALL my image folders were set with the appropriate art.

Made no sense, but I just decided to try refreshing all box images in Launchbox for the hell of it & all of a sudden things all finally show the images I want in Big Box including MAME. So guessing something got corrupted somehow & this was all rly nothing of my doing or misunderstanding of the settings (I noticed Group by image/box front in Launchbox for NES was showing box, screenshots & clearlogos for games until the refresh too!)

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