"PROBLEM SOLVED" BigBox Startup with YUZU & PS3 Emu Fxied by Skizzujst

[oldgamer]

hello everyone I'm asking for your help very desperately so I got the chance to read one of the comments are one of the members told me that it to fix this issue I have to turn off the startup inside big box my problem is that I want to make sure that the startup theme and also the pause theme work great with the two emulators that I enjoy the most and that is the PlayStation 3 emulator and Yuzu emulator because I love the feature of the big box with these new things features but the problem is that I'm getting this black screen now I did took a look into it before and it took me a long time to do a heavy search but nothing works in my favor another two solution helps at all I don't want to see an ugly window or my see my desktop when I run these emulators through the screen I get this black screen all the time and whenever I press the mouse feature on my keyboard and mouse that's when the game brings up to the screen I really do enjoy the startup theme and also the Pause theme for big box but I don't want to turn it off there must be another way for us to use this feature and bypass it so I can work for both emulators I posted a YouTube video to show you guys what I'm talking about and I hope that someone can take me and baby stuff to how to fix this issue completely

 

Edited September 22, 2022 by oldgamer

[oldgamer]

so I'm guessing no one really knows about the issue with the startup theme?  or the solution of my problem with BigBox ?

Edited September 16, 2022 by oldgamer

[Lordmonkus]

Sorry I can't help you. I don't really use those emulators and I don't use startup themes at all.

[Kiinkyfoxx]

2 hours ago, oldgamer said:

so I'm guessing no one really knows about the issue with the startup theme?  or the solution of my problem with BigBox ?

Both work here with Start-up and Pause

I can replicate your issue by shortening the Startup Load Delay value to being too short - try putting it at full 30 seconds and see what happens and then shorten it from there if you need/want

I am using LaunchBox 12.14 and Yuzu 1153

Try the following settings, and see what you get

I think this works with Vulkan or OpenGL, but I know I have mine on OpenGL for some reason or other but I honestly cannot remember what it is - might have been a black screen issue

Also do you have anything in your running AHK tab that might be affecting things?

For PS3

Using latest RPCS3 - As downloaded to check it for you

In emulator have 

 

in LaunchBox have

and

again try playing with the Delay time and increasing until it works?

Pause screen is

Let us know how it goes

Cheers

Ps There might be better/newer parameters, especially for PS3 emulator - I have stopped using it so this was just using the old info that used to work and giving it a quick try for you now 

 

Edited September 16, 2022 by Kiinkyfoxx

[skizzosjt]

I'll 2nd this works perfectly fine without any special convoluted setup requirements. Just normal enabling the options. Though I wouldn't agree you need to check "hide all windows that are not fullscreen" or "aggressive start up window hiding"  or turning the slider up to a very long delay since I am not using those settings.

[oldgamer]

21 hours ago, Kiinkyfoxx said:

Both work here with Start-up and Pause

I can replicate your issue by shortening the Startup Load Delay value to being too short - try putting it at full 30 seconds and see what happens and then shorten it from there if you need/want

I am using LaunchBox 12.14 and Yuzu 1153

Try the following settings, and see what you get

I think this works with Vulkan or OpenGL, but I know I have mine on OpenGL for some reason or other but I honestly cannot remember what it is - might have been a black screen issue

Also do you have anything in your running AHK tab that might be affecting things?

For PS3

Using latest RPCS3 - As downloaded to check it for you

In emulator have 

 

in LaunchBox have

and

again try playing with the Delay time and increasing until it works?

Pause screen is

Let us know how it goes

Cheers

Ps There might be better/newer parameters, especially for PS3 emulator - I have stopped using it so this was just using the old info that used to work and giving it a quick try for you now 

 

I followed your setting to the letterlike you shown me and still its really not working so  here a video to show you and also thank you so mush for helping me out but not working for odd reason :-;  

here the video 

 

 

 

Edited September 17, 2022 by oldgamer

[oldgamer]

20 hours ago, skizzosjt said:

I'll 2nd this works perfectly fine without any special convoluted setup requirements. Just normal enabling the options. Though I wouldn't agree you need to check "hide all windows that are not fullscreen" or "aggressive start up window hiding"  or turning the slider up to a very long delay since I am not using those settings.

wait so your is working with yuzu and your rpsc3 with the start up ? becuase I did everything and still not working for me :-:

[skizzosjt]

2 hours ago, oldgamer said:

wait so your is working with yuzu and your rpsc3 with the start up ? becuase I did everything and still not working for me :-:

yes, sorry I didn't elaborate any further because kiinkyfoxx did such a thorough job 👍 I had nothing of value to add other than to say "mine works OK". But since you're still having trouble, I'll add what I can

 

For yuzu, I see a small change I doubt is the cause but pointing it out. I do NOT have "Attempt to hide console window on startup/shutdown" in the Yuzu emulator details tab in LB. But again, this shouldn't matter because If I toggle these settings I cannot recreate your issue.

23 hours ago, skizzosjt said:

Though I wouldn't agree you need to check "hide all windows that are not fullscreen" or "aggressive start up window hiding"  or turning the slider up to a very long delay since I am not using those settings.

Still on yuzu.....Seeing how I can get this to work with less settings, did you try turning this stuff off too? a 5 second slider time is what I use for the delay. When I enable these settings it seems it is hiding the window that shows the shaders compiling so puts a black screen up during that portion should the start screen already faded out. So again not so sure this is helpful, because I didn't totally recreate the issue. Even putting a silly long delay of 30 secs yuzu should be launching into exclusive fullscreen which will take over the display and steal focus. Therefore cutting off the startup screen prematurely from it's user setting.....just like the notes are described by the developers in LB. the "-f" parameter is what launches yuzu as fullscreen, but it doesn't designate exclusive or borderless, that is done in the emulator. When I entered 30 secs yuzu still displayed the game in ~10 secs which is on par with the time it takes my system to compile the shaders and launch the game normally, working exactly as intended as the devs describe in the LB notes.  Are you using EXCLUSIVE fullscreen here in yuzu? borderless fullscreen can cause problems like this. I got stuck on a black screen after the startup screen faded out using it, and if I clicked the mouse, the shutdown screen appears and does it fade out and now the game window visible. Sooooo sorta sounds like the same problem you're having? I hope this is the culprit, it would totally explain the problem if this fixes it! Does seem  like the smoking gun if you will

 

 

I'm not finding a smoking gun for RPCS3 quite yet though. Doing our due diligence we should check the equivalent setting in RPCS3 here. It should be off....but I'll admit this didn't recreate the issue if I enabled it just now. My startup and shutdown screens worked the same prefect way with this on or off....but to be clear off is better, exclusive fullscreen is superior. I got the other screens too, some other settings are used, but I don't think they come into play with your issue (hiding the mouse settings for example shouldn't impact this). The fact you can "get control" back from hitting escape means the emulator is running in the background so you are exiting it as intended through your exit hot key (which you should change the same exact script you had in yuzu. don't close emulators via the process command since it is the equivalent of nuking them through task managers end task. so ONLY use that as an absolute last resort to close an emulator. RCPS3 works fine with the script you have in yuzu).

Otherwise....sorry....I'm not finding anything else yet that sticks out that causes your issue with RPCS3. I think I've scrutinized every setting you and KiinkyFoxx shared. If I didn't share my specific settings, it's because they were the same as shared by kiinkyfoxx. I tried to only point out my differences.

 

 

By the way, sorry to go off on the tangent as you're looking for help, but I really like the theme you are using here, your favorite as you described, but I didn't catch the name of the theme? Can you please tell me which theme this is?  Nvm....I shoulda used the search function before asking, it was easy to find!

 

Edited September 17, 2022 by skizzosjt

[Kiinkyfoxx]

Sorry I did read this and watch the video but then got called away to play Streets of Rage 3

It seems like Skizzosjt has given lots of information and more indepth than me.

If that doesn't work, my only suggestion would be for you to upload your config file for the emulators and let us try them on our setups and see if it causes at issues.

I know I have had black screen issues before on some systems and managed to get past them in the end and startup/shutdown and pause screens work here.

My computer is old so most likely why I have to have a longer time delay as takes longer to do things.

Good luck and as I said if it still doesn't work, then might be worth picking one system, giving us which version number you are using and a copy of you config files. I think that should be allowed as no copyright material in them.

[oldgamer]

On 9/17/2022 at 4:42 PM, skizzosjt said:

yes, sorry I didn't elaborate any further because kiinkyfoxx did such a thorough job 👍 I had nothing of value to add other than to say "mine works OK". But since you're still having trouble, I'll add what I can

 

For yuzu, I see a small change I doubt is the cause but pointing it out. I do NOT have "Attempt to hide console window on startup/shutdown" in the Yuzu emulator details tab in LB. But again, this shouldn't matter because If I toggle these settings I cannot recreate your issue.

Still on yuzu.....Seeing how I can get this to work with less settings, did you try turning this stuff off too? a 5 second slider time is what I use for the delay. When I enable these settings it seems it is hiding the window that shows the shaders compiling so puts a black screen up during that portion should the start screen already faded out. So again not so sure this is helpful, because I didn't totally recreate the issue. Even putting a silly long delay of 30 secs yuzu should be launching into exclusive fullscreen which will take over the display and steal focus. Therefore cutting off the startup screen prematurely from it's user setting.....just like the notes are described by the developers in LB. the "-f" parameter is what launches yuzu as fullscreen, but it doesn't designate exclusive or borderless, that is done in the emulator. When I entered 30 secs yuzu still displayed the game in ~10 secs which is on par with the time it takes my system to compile the shaders and launch the game normally, working exactly as intended as the devs describe in the LB notes.  Are you using EXCLUSIVE fullscreen here in yuzu? borderless fullscreen can cause problems like this. I got stuck on a black screen after the startup screen faded out using it, and if I clicked the mouse, the shutdown screen appears and does it fade out and now the game window visible. Sooooo sorta sounds like the same problem you're having? I hope this is the culprit, it would totally explain the problem if this fixes it! Does seem  like the smoking gun if you will

 

 

I'm not finding a smoking gun for RPCS3 quite yet though. Doing our due diligence we should check the equivalent setting in RPCS3 here. It should be off....but I'll admit this didn't recreate the issue if I enabled it just now. My startup and shutdown screens worked the same prefect way with this on or off....but to be clear off is better, exclusive fullscreen is superior. I got the other screens too, some other settings are used, but I don't think they come into play with your issue (hiding the mouse settings for example shouldn't impact this). The fact you can "get control" back from hitting escape means the emulator is running in the background so you are exiting it as intended through your exit hot key (which you should change the same exact script you had in yuzu. don't close emulators via the process command since it is the equivalent of nuking them through task managers end task. so ONLY use that as an absolute last resort to close an emulator. RCPS3 works fine with the script you have in yuzu).

Otherwise....sorry....I'm not finding anything else yet that sticks out that causes your issue with RPCS3. I think I've scrutinized every setting you and KiinkyFoxx shared. If I didn't share my specific settings, it's because they were the same as shared by kiinkyfoxx. I tried to only point out my differences.

 

 

By the way, sorry to go off on the tangent as you're looking for help, but I really like the theme you are using here, your favorite as you described, but I didn't catch the name of the theme? Can you please tell me which theme this is?  Nvm....I shoulda used the search function before asking, it was easy to find!

 

the theme Im using is called Retro Console BB AND THANK YOU SO MUSH FOR HELPING ME, you help fix my issue so here a video to show how its working  

 

 

[oldgamer]

On 9/17/2022 at 5:27 PM, Kiinkyfoxx said:

Sorry I did read this and watch the video but then got called away to play Streets of Rage 3

It seems like Skizzosjt has given lots of information and more indepth than me.

If that doesn't work, my only suggestion would be for you to upload your config file for the emulators and let us try them on our setups and see if it causes at issues.

I know I have had black screen issues before on some systems and managed to get past them in the end and startup/shutdown and pause screens work here.

My computer is old so most likely why I have to have a longer time delay as takes longer to do things.

Good luck and as I said if it still doesn't work, then might be worth picking one system, giving us which version number you are using and a copy of you config files. I think that should be allowed as no copyright material in them.

SKizzojst help me with the problem and thank you for helping me too ❤️ but his guide help fix my issue ❤️ 

[skizzosjt]

13 hours ago, oldgamer said:

the theme Im using is called Retro Console BB AND THANK YOU SO MUSH FOR HELPING ME, you help fix my issue so here a video to show how its working

glad you got it worked out and I see you clarified what I found too, Retro Console BB. But I'm hoping you could clarify further, I noticed there are at least two different versions of this custom theme, and I'm not 100% clear if one or the other offers the same layout you were utilizing in your video. I'm going to hazard a guess you are using something like "text view" (I'm sure that is not the right term, but hope it gets my point across) because all the game titles are simple text rather than game specific logos like the "wheels" used in many themes. I like the icons used particularly also.

 

Do you know which one specifically you are using? There is a 2.1.4 version, and a 3.0.6 version

 

If I had to guess, yours looks closer to the photos shown in 2.1.4

2.1.4 link for reference

 

 

3.0.6 link for reference

 

When I looked at the newer one, 3.0.6 I don't see any photos on that page that look similar to your theme. For ex, I do not want themes looking like this one shows where the layout mimics the appearance of the console as a bezel.

So I'm asking because maybe the newest one still has all the same support for the appearance that was used in 2.1.4 but maybe it just isn't showcased in the thumbnail images the creator uploaded to the download page.

 

 I dont' want a theme that looks like this

 

 

But I DO want a theme that looks like this. Which I think looks like the one in your video

 

Long winded way to say, "Can you please tell me exactly which version of the theme you're using?" LOL I'm just trying to avoid downloading the wrong one

 

Edited September 22, 2022 by skizzosjt

[oldgamer]

this is the Retro Theme I used 

Retro Console Theme.rar

also I had to remake the video startup that he made because was too long so I shorted the startup video for it here the short version of start up video I made for the theme to get this video just click the 3 dots and hit downlead and make sure you name it Startup

also be sure to get all the Playlist banner for it as well I think you can find it here

 

Here the startup and shut down

and here is the pause theme 

 

LAST HERE the platform category clear logo for it as well 

Platform Categories.rar

and here the Sound for it as well 

Sound.rar

Edited September 22, 2022 by oldgamer

[skizzosjt]

22 hours ago, oldgamer said:

this is the Retro Theme I used 

Retro Console Theme.rar 115.41 MB · 0 downloads

also I had to remake the video startup that he made because was too long so I shorted the startup video for it here the short version of start up video I made for the theme to get this video just click the 3 dots and hit downlead and make sure you name it Startup

 

also be sure to get all the Playlist banner for it as well I think you can find it here

 

Here the startup and shut down

and here is the pause theme 

 

LAST HERE the platform category clear logo for it as well 

Platform Categories.rar 23.91 MB · 0 downloads

and here the Sound for it as well 

Sound.rar 93.37 kB · 0 downloads

Great details and thanks for the help!