Gars943 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 (edited) I do not mean to keep beating a dead horse. I have a working version of MAME v113 complete with ROMS. There are 10-15 games that the family likes playing on our cocktail machine that have not worked in versions past v113. An example is the game UP n DOWN, the game flips fine in v268, but after the flip the cars will not match the track and is unplayable for player 2. I am running Launchbox and RetroArch and would just like to get these few V113 games working with my v268 Mame setup. Any help is appreciated. Gary Edited September 23 by Gars943 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro808 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Not 100% sure why it would not work in cocktail mode. I do not have a cocktail cab to test with it. However, on issue may the rom could have been updated since v113. Your roms are from a set created in 2007 it is not almost 18 years old. It is possible a better dump was made and with changed to the Mame.exe you may need a newer rom. It is always recommended to use rom from a rom set matching the version of Mame you are using. So you may need to update your roms to a version from the Mame 268 set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gars943 Posted September 23 Author Share Posted September 23 Retro 808, I'm sorry for not understanding your response. Are you saying update the v113 rom for that game to v268? V268 has the game but it will not work on a cocktail machine correctly. And if your saying to take just the roms from v113, how do I update them to v268 so they work properly? Please just point me in the right direction... Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro808 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Just to reiterate, I cannot truly confirm why it is not working in cocktail mode, only that one reason could be your rom is too old to work with newer Mame. One easy way to test is download MAme version 113 and see if it works in the old version. It is always best to use roms from a set matching (or at least very close to) the Mame version to ensure the best compatibility. If you plan to run Mame 268 I recommend downloading a more current rom set from Pleasure Dome. I cannot link to roms due to forum rules, but the thread below can help guide you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gars943 Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 I have both versions 113 and 268 working on my computer. I'm trying to incorporate just the 10-15 games that aren't working from 113 into my launchbox set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro808 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Does that game play correctly in version 113? If not then it may be a setting that needs adjusting or just it does not play correctly in cocktail mode. Unfortunately I am not familiar with the game enough to know and I have not set up anything to test games in cocktail mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeViking245 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 20 hours ago, Gars943 said: An example is the game UP n DOWN, the game flips fine in v268, but after the flip the cars will not match the track and is unplayable for player 2. This is a "known bug" in the system1.cpp driver. Since cocktail mode doesn't work (player 2 track and vehicle alignment), then you may want to put the game in upright mode and just have player 1 and 2 swap seats, using the same side of the table. Not ideal for a cocktail table. If you want to keep it visually 'cocktail', set the dipswitch for Cabinet to Upright, and the video option to Cocktail. This way it'll still look 'cocktail', but players 1 and 2 will [still need to] use the same controls. But the alignment doesn't get screwy when it's player 2's turn. BTW, After seeing this post, I played the game several times (for the 1st time ever). I can imagine this game took in A LOT of quarters. lol It's hard. But it's not. And it's frustratingly enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gars943 Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 Retro 808, Yes, the game works fine on both sides of cocktail machine in v113, again, not in v268. Joeviking245, I understand your instructions for that and have tried that but there are still games like Carnival, Dingo, Kick, Ms.PacMan, PacMan, Paperboy, Shuffleshot, ToyPop which I am experiencing problems in v268, but not v113. So, is there a way to get my v113 games which work, set next to v268 so it’s one smooth operation once I open Launchbox on my MAME machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro808 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 2 hours ago, Gars943 said: Retro 808, Yes, the game works fine on both sides of cocktail machine in v113, again, not in v268. Joeviking245, I understand your instructions for that and have tried that but there are still games like Carnival, Dingo, Kick, Ms.PacMan, PacMan, Paperboy, Shuffleshot, ToyPop which I am experiencing problems in v268, but not v113. So, is there a way to get my v113 games which work, set next to v268 so it’s one smooth operation once I open Launchbox on my MAME machine? Well if it works in 113 and not in 268 this goes back to what I mention about roms sets matching the Mame.exe version. Between Mame.exe version 113 and Mame.exe version .268 something changed in Mame that makes that version of rom you have no longer playable in a more recent versions of Mame. It is not uncommon for a change in Mame to occur and a rom no longer work right. Looks like if you want to keep playing that game in cocktail mode you may need to keep a Mame 113 version in your LB build and point that game to that version of Mame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gars943 Posted September 24 Author Share Posted September 24 Retro 808, Thank you, how do I do that? Because I can’t get below version 167 on the list. Please remember I’m a noob… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeViking245 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 On 9/24/2024 at 11:43 AM, Gars943 said: Retro 808, Thank you, how do I do that? Because I can’t get below version 167 on the list. Please remember I’m a noob… Sorry. I misread your original post indicating that those games do actually work with your MAME version 0.113. This will get 'those' game to work when launching from LaunchBox. You'll be adding a new Platform and a new Emulator. Later you can rearrange things to your liking. In Windows Explorer, select the (10 to 15) v0.113 ROMS and drag them onto LaunchBox This will start the ROM import Wizard Select ROM Files For the Platform, manually type Arcade 0.113 Select Scrape As: Arcade Under Choose an Emulator, select Add... Give it a Name (Like MAME 0.113) Browse to and select your mame.exe (for v0.113) Check Remove Quotes and Remove file extension and folder path Click Associated Platforms Manually type in Arcade 0.113 (the name from step #3. Spelled and capitalized the exact same.) Check the box Default Emulator Click OK to save and close You'll get a popup stating "MAME requires..." Click No Follow the rest of prompts accordingly Click Finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gars943 Posted September 26 Author Share Posted September 26 Retro 808, Thank you, as soon as I can I will be working on this, busy weekend so probably next week! Thank you again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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