ThirdScreen Plugin for Platform Video Marquees, 3+ Screen Support, and more 5.0.1

25 minutes ago, DerSchlachter said:

I updated to current version, now the Plugin don't recognized my correct resolution (1280x70 for marquee Screen and 1920x1080 for Backglas screen) . Is it a Windows issue?

Ok, thanks. You are the second person to report that, so there's probably an issue in the plugin. Unfortunately I can't recreate it on my end. If you're willing I could send you a few different versions to try just to help me pinpoint where it started reporting the wrong resolution.

6 minutes ago, superrob3000 said:

Ok, thanks. You are the second person to report that, so there's probably an issue in the plugin. Unfortunately I can't recreate it on my end. If you're willing I could send you a few different versions to try just to help me pinpoint where it started reporting the wrong resolution.

Yes, if i can help i will help 

@DerSchlachter @RVS67 You both reported issues with an incorrect resolution being reported when moving to 2.0.10. Here are all my incremental revisions between 2.0.9 and 2.0.10. If you have the time to try each one until the settings app reports an incorrect resolution that would help me out a lot.

Debug_releases.zip

18 minutes ago, superrob3000 said:

@DerSchlachter @RVS67 You both reported issues with an incorrect resolution being reported when moving to 2.0.10. Here are all my incremental revisions between 2.0.9 and 2.0.10. If you have the time to try each one until the settings app reports an incorrect resolution that would help me out a lot.

Debug_releases.zip 31.58 MB · 0 downloads

For me, no version worked, same as actual version

3 minutes ago, DerSchlachter said:

For me, no version worked, same as actual version

Even 2.0.9.00 ?

24 minutes ago, superrob3000 said:

@DerSchlachter @RVS67 You both reported issues with an incorrect resolution being reported when moving to 2.0.10. Here are all my incremental revisions between 2.0.9 and 2.0.10. If you have the time to try each one until the settings app reports an incorrect resolution that would help me out a lot.

Debug_releases.zip 31.58 MB · 2 downloads

As far as I am concerned, marquees starts being wrongly displayed with 2.0.9. 2.0.8 runs just fine.

@superrob3000 Yes, even 2.0.9.00,restart PC, delete all DL start Launchbox clean, copied files start LB again, no effect.

1 hour ago, DerSchlachter said:

@superrob3000 Yes, even 2.0.9.00,restart PC, delete all DL start Launchbox clean, copied files start LB again, no effect.

On your LaunchBox.exe and BigBox.exe (as well as any shortcuts pointing to them), do you have either of the highlighted boxes checked in Compatibility settings?

@superrob3000 No, they are unchecked. I activated the options, and gave it another try, it worked for me (Version 2.0.10)
Maybe something for the FAQ!

What is also very interesting is that I had to change the resolution of the first screen, i.e. the main screen, to exactly 100%. On TV, when I add new things to Launchbox, I always set the resolution to 300% so I can see everything better.

My Marquee Screen and Backglas Screen are set to 100% by default.

However, as soon as the main screen is set to 300%, the marquee resolution changes, the correct resolution is displayed, but the artwork is stretched so that you can only see a fraction of the image.

But as written, just for info!

Don't do this

 

Do this

31 minutes ago, DerSchlachter said:

@superrob3000 No, they are unchecked. I activated the options, and gave it another try, it worked for me (Version 2.0.10)
Maybe something for the FAQ!

What is also very interesting is that I had to change the resolution of the first screen, i.e. the main screen, to exactly 100%. On TV, when I add new things to Launchbox, I always set the resolution to 300% so I can see everything better.

My Marquee Screen and Backglas Screen are set to 100% by default.

However, as soon as the main screen is set to 300%, the marquee resolution changes, the correct resolution is displayed, but the artwork is stretched so that you can only see a fraction of the image.

Another thing you should check is the setting of "Fix scaling for apps->Let Windows try to fix apps so they're not blurry" under "Advanced scaling settings" in Windows Display Settings. Enabling that is how I finally recreated the incorrect resolution reporting. With that feature disabled and also all boxes unchecked in Properties->Compatability->Change High DPI settings, I'm then able to change resolution and/or DPI scaling for the main monitor without any issues.

great plug in, is there anyway to have a 4K monitor and a 1920x480 stretched lcd? it displays but the image wont center and scale properly. it works perfectly if i set my main game screen to 1080p though.

so it turns out if both at 100% scaling it works . anyway around that? since 100% at 4K on a 50 inch screen is super tiny 

Just now, magicray1028 said:

so it turns out if both at 100% scaling it works . anyway around that? since 100% at 4K on a 50 inch screen is super tiny 

Yes I've tested the plugin with 4k main monitor and main monitor dpi greater than 100% and a similarly sized marquee as yours.

First make sure your marquee is disabled in bigbox settings so that the plugin can use it. Then double check the following settings:

Disable "Fix scaling for apps->Let Windows try to fix apps so they're not blurry" under "Advanced scaling settings" in Windows Display Settings

Make sure all boxes are unchecked in Properties->Compatability->Change High DPI settings when you right click on the launchbox and bigbox executables and any shortcuts to them.

 

1 hour ago, superrob3000 said:

Yes I've tested the plugin with 4k main monitor and main monitor dpi greater than 100% and a similarly sized marquee as yours.

First make sure your marquee is disabled in bigbox settings so that the plugin can use it. Then double check the following settings:

Disable "Fix scaling for apps->Let Windows try to fix apps so they're not blurry" under "Advanced scaling settings" in Windows Display Settings

Make sure all boxes are unchecked in Properties->Compatability->Change High DPI settings when you right click on the launchbox and bigbox executables and any shortcuts to them.

 

ok i figured it out! this is all that needs to be set on launchbox for it to work with different resolutions and scaling. 

On 1/17/2023 at 3:33 PM, superrob3000 said:

@gig71 Thank you! @mrbrightside80 @fruity You had also reported gifs not working for you. The issue is that you must be running LaunchBox/BigBox as an administrator for the gifs to work. I'll see if I can work around that in future versions, but for now you'll have to run it as admin.

Any of the following would work:

1. Give your user admin privileges.
2. Right click the LaunchBox or BigBox exe and choose "Run as Administrator".
3. Right click the LaunchBox or BigBox exe and choose Properties->Compatibility->Run this program as an administrator

 

The issue with gifs not working without running as an admin has been resolved in v2.0.11.

Any chance of adding a manual 3D model box rotation option?

17 minutes ago, Retrofrogg said:

Any chance of adding a manual 3D model box rotation option?

Sorry @Retrofrogg, I have no plans to add manual rotation. I'm a big fan of having them auto-rotate ☺️.

Fair enough @superrob3000 - but how are we supposed to read the text on the back of the boxes if they auto rotate?

1 minute ago, Retrofrogg said:

Fair enough @superrob3000 - but how are we supposed to read the text on the back of the boxes if they auto rotate?

I actually have the rotation slow down a bit when showing the front and back for that reason. Anything more than that you can view the 3d model in the main launchbox window.

so checking the box for high dpi by system does make the marquee work perfectly regardless of whatever scale they both monitors are at. however that is the root cause of the incorrect reported resolutions. as far as i can tell the plug in is trying to handle the resolution in a way that forces the main screen to be on the same scale as itself. most emulator games dont matter but PC games with set resolutions start to get weird and go all big screen. i would imagine the solution would be to somehow also enable the plug in to ignore the PCs scaling and simply run along launchbox at 100%. while the rest of windows can be 150 or whatever it needs to be

6 hours ago, magicray1028 said:

so checking the box for high dpi by system does make the marquee work perfectly regardless of whatever scale they both monitors are at. however that is the root cause of the incorrect reported resolutions. as far as i can tell the plug in is trying to handle the resolution in a way that forces the main screen to be on the same scale as itself. most emulator games dont matter but PC games with set resolutions start to get weird and go all big screen. i would imagine the solution would be to somehow also enable the plug in to ignore the PCs scaling and simply run along launchbox at 100%. while the rest of windows can be 150 or whatever it needs to be

You should try the steps I have listed in the troubleshooting section of the file description.

@superrob3000 I totally agree with you, but Windows 11 doesn't seem to have this feature anymore. I tried to find this setting because of your tip. Under Advance Scaling there is only a user-defined scaling, a workaround for Windows 11 is indeed to select the high DP settings. If I've researched wrongly, I'd appreciate a hint.

 

Spoiler

 

Everything is somehow possible, your plugin is by far a perfect addition to Launchbo/Bigbox. I always enjoy the sight of my 3 monitors and the comfortable setting of them. THANKS!

2 hours ago, superrob3000 said:

You should try the steps I have listed in the troubleshooting section of the file description.

unfortunately im also on windows 11 pro and the option to fix blurry apps button is missing. been trying to find a registry hack or something to bring it back but so far no luck

@magicray1028Set High DPI Setting, everything works fine