spectral Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) Which is the best PS1/PS2 pad adapter to use with retroarch and PCSX2 on Win10? I have an old 10yo or so one and while it works it doesn't seem very responsive on the d-pad. General movement is ok but movements such as a Hadoken or Dragon Punch in Street Fighter games are imposible, it just doesn't keep up. I've tried it with 4 different pads and it happens with them all so its not a problem with the pad. I was looking at one on Amazon that is N64 and PS2 but a lot of the reviews say they never got PS2 working on it. Edited June 27, 2017 by spectral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 You can do fireballs and uppercuts with a PS2 d-pad on real hardware ? Quite possibly the worst d-pad ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectral Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 On PS2 I honestly dont know. I know I could used to do it fine on PS1 pads though. I've tried 3 PS1 pads and 1 PS2 pad and they all feel the same in RA. Not actually tried them with other emulators as I want to use RA for PS1 emulation. I cant remember exactly when I got the adapter but it was well prior to 2010. Possibly closer to 2005. Just dont want to buy another and have the same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I don't think the adapter adds any input lag but Retroarchs default settings can be improved upon to reduce input lag which can help with games like Street Fighter. While none of the following settings on it's own will drastically reduce input lag all of them combined do help out. Hard GPU Sync = On Max Swapchain = 2 Hard GPU Sync Frames = 0 Frame Delay set as high as you can before you encounter audio issues (this is if you have V-Sync = On) * V-Sync off will reduce input lag as well but introduce screen tearing if not using a G-Sync or Freesync setup My personal opinion is that the d-pad on any of the stock PS controllers is awful for Street Fighter games to begin with. I use a Hori Fight Commander which has an amazing d-pad but no analog stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectral Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 Its possible its just the pads but like I said I used them in the past and they weren't perfect but I could do it. I'm not home till the weekend so cant test it with other emulators. I suspect the adapter because its so old and was never really intended for use on a modern system. I tried a PS3 pad and that worked much much better in RA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 It may just be an input latency issue. I know before I learned how to configure certain emulators to reduce it I couldn't play Street Fighter to save my life but once I configured my emulators and everything I was able to play again. That's just one other thing to look into before shelling out some money on new adapters. It could very well be the adapter though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectral Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 Yeah I'll have a mess before I fork out any money. Will try the settings you suggested in RA and will also try it out with some emulators to see if it is only RA. Although I'd rather it be the adapter than RA as I'd much rather buy another adapter than use a different PS1 emulator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Retroarch once configured is extremely low input latency but depending on settings can be high. Check out more on this subject in this thread here on the Retroarch forums: https://forums.libretro.com/t/an-input-lag-investigation/4407/451 Most notably look for posts by the user Brunnis, he did some amazing work testing and essentially RA properly configured is only 1 frame more input lag than a real SNES on a CRT which is essentially nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectral Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 Hopefully it will just be the settings. The main thing that made be think it was the adapter is that the PS3 pad using the same settings was so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 You are probably correct in that it's the adapter if the PS3 controller is fine. I have never used any adapters for connecting a controller so I have zero experience with them to say one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectral Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) I decided to just get a new adapter while ordering the 8bitdo Super Famicom pad (I'm in the Uk so its the same as the snes pad here). While not as responsive as I remember there is a marked improvement over the old adapter, I can do the hadoken far more reliable, dragon punch is hit and miss but I think that took some practice originally too. This may have been how they were originally too and I'm just used to better now. This is without changing any settings in RA, I wanted a direct comparison to the old one. I'm going to try the input settings you suggested shortly. Edit: Tried the other settings and while certainly no worse than the default its hard to say with just a quick go if there is any improvement , but may aswell leave them set anyway. Do you have a ballpark figure for the frame delay? I realise the exact setting is going to vary system to system but I dont want to be upping it 1 at a time if I should be doing it 10 or even 100 at a time. The reason I'm not using a different pad, at least not atm is that where I can I want the systems running with the original or as close to original controllers as i can get/is convenient. I'm also not likely going to play the PS1 SF games much anyway when the Arcade version is sitting there in Mame. The reason I picked SF to test is that if that is playable with it, pretty much any other game will be fine. I may get that pad you recommended at some point in the future though it looks nice. I do however also have the Hori mini arcade stick for PS3/4. Edited July 3, 2017 by spectral morer stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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