catalaman Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 someone can help the rom thook.zip not work on mame 0.236 . it gives me this eror in the pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skizzosjt Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 you're looking right at the solution. you're missing 4 files, seems you have an incomplete ROM or have a clone version w/o the parent, something like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalaman Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) NO THIS thoop.zip is PARENT ROM , i think this gal16v8.f2 is bios system i dont found Edited September 24, 2022 by catalaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skizzosjt Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) oh geeze yup I didn't zoom in a read the fine print 🤦♂️ listed as parent rom based off the file name. I don't know enough about that game to know if you gotta get the BIOS or what it is that is missing. to find what you're missing, google is your pal....wink wink Edited September 24, 2022 by skizzosjt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spycat Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Those 4 files are part of the game rom and are bad dumps. thoop.zip was last updated in Oct 2020, so we'll have to wait for a new dump with all files ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catalaman Posted September 24, 2022 Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) SHOULD YOU KNOW THAT ROM WORKS FINE ON MAME 0.222 , and dont work on mame 0.236 . in general normally the update facilitates and corrects the errors, why the update of the mame becomes more and more complicated with the old roms . Edited September 24, 2022 by catalaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeViking245 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 55 minutes ago, catalaman said: SHOULD YOU KNOW THAT ROM WORKS FINE ON MAME 0.222 , and dont work on mame 0.236 . in general normally the update facilitates and corrects the errors, why the update of the mame becomes more and more complicated with the old roms . As MAME (mame.exe version 0.xxx) updates, they've updated ROM dumps as well. Not every ROM gets updated with every MAME update. This is why if you update MAME and not the ROMs, most of the games will still work. In your case, Thunder Hoop is not one of them. The rule of thumb is you always want to have a ROM set (version) that matches you MAME version. The reason your Thunder Hoop works in v0.222 is because you ROM (zip file) is from version 0.225 or earlier (i.e., 0.222). If you look inside thook.zip, you will see that it only has 7 files. c09 c10 c11 c12 sound th18dea1.040 th161eb4.020 When the ROM was updated along with MAME version 0.226, it now has 11 files. Those previous 7, plus thunderhoop_gal16v8.f2 thunderhoop_gal16v8.j16 thunderhoop_gal20v8.d21 thunderhoop_gal20v8.h11 (see the resemblance of the 4 yours says is missing?) So, MAME versions 0.226 and later (i.e., 0.236) are looking for all 11 files. Sometimes you will get "lucky" when you update MAME but not the ROMs, and the ROMs will still work. But it is NOT advisable to it that way "hoping for the best". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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