TheMadMan007 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 So my friend and I are playing through the Toejam and Earl series, and I wanted to play around with the Toejam and Earl 3 beta that got leaked a few years ago for the Dreamcast. Well, first I tried Retroarch and loaded it up in the Riecast emulator and it basically freezes RetroArch everytime it gets past the Bios. Then I did a bit more research and everyone from 2014 says NullDC is the way to go to get the game to run. So I load up NullDC and if crashes upon boot every single time. Spent several hours but to no avail. I have a Windows 10 PC and can't find any help on how to get NullDC to actually start on a Windows PC. I saw one post say Dx 9 needs to be installed, but when I tried it, it needs to be running in a very old version of windows to install (Win XP, or Server 2003). Anyone have any ideas on how to get this emulator to run, just so I can check out some beta? I find it hard to believe NullDC is the only thing that can run this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Does it load any other known working games ? If not make sure you have the correct bios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadMan007 Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 It crashes upon starting the program. I can't load a game to test it out as it loads up, then disappears within about 3 seconds after starting. I have the correct bioses in the data folder, and the correct plugins as well, it just won't start up at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Hmm, yeah that sounds like a missing dependency. Unfortunately I haven't tried NullDC in a very long time, I use Demul for all my Dreamcast needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadMan007 Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 Yeah, I tried Demul and it just comes up as an Audio disc when trying to play the Toejam and Earl 3 beta. Do you know why that would happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 It's hard to say with DC emulation, while its pretty good for the most part and most games are playable with very few or no bugs there is still a lot of issues with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 You may want to try all the gdrom plugins in Demul with the game they can effect what happens depending on the file type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadMan007 Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 So there is definitely something wrong with the new Windows 10 April update that doesn't allow NullDC to run. Two of my PCs have the new update. PC 1 (Main PC): Win 10 Pro April Update, NullDC closes immediately after starting the program. PC 2 : WIn 10 Pro April Update: NullDC opens but crashes as soon as game is selected and tries to start the emulation PC 3: Win 10 Pro Doesn't have April Update: Runs perfectly fine PC 4: Win 10 Pro Doesn't have April Update: Runs perfectly fine I tried Demul and changing the plugin to the Image plug in will load the game, but it goes to the dashboard and treat the game like a audio CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc0tt88 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Did you find a solution? I'm using a version that nobody else has complained about yet I have this issue too. I also have the big Windows 10 update. Why do they insist on ruining everything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ooROGUEoo0 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 On 7/8/2018 at 12:59 PM, sc0tt88 said: Did you find a solution? I'm using a version that nobody else has complained about yet I have this issue too. I also have the big Windows 10 update. Why do they insist on ruining everything... I know this is old, but just had the same problem. I solved it by removing the file "SDL.dll" from the nulldc folder. Hope it works for those experiencing this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 You do not need to remove SDL.dll ! Just remove PuruPuru_Win32.dll under ... nulldc104 \Plugins After removing the emulator starts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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