vahacris Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Hi guys. I have question regarding arcade games CHD files. I have full non-merged MAME 0.179 romset. I spent more than year to test/play all the games from this release. I left in LB only the ones that I enjoy to play. Now I want to delete from my hard drive all the other games (that I remove from LB) because of the size of the fullset. I this is where I find problems. If I understand correct one game needs only one zip file, so it will be easy to check for games that i left in LB what file LB is refer to for specific game and delete the other zip files (for games that I remove from LB). Is this correct? Or maybe some games used two or more zip files? (like I said I have non-merged version so all games are in separate files?). Another (bigger) problem is CHD files because from what I read some games are using CHD files named different from zip file of this game, and LB only refer to zip file. So the question is if there is some reference list where the games are assigned to CHD files? Are there CHD files used by few different games? Any help will be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spycat Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Some chds have the same name as the game's rom while others don't, but all chds will be in unzipped folders named exactly like the game roms, making these folders easy to spot and remove. For example the game Killer Instinct, kinst.zip uses a chd called kinst.chd which is in a folder called kinst, whereas the game Crypt Killer, cryptklr.zip uses a chd called 420uaa04.chd which is in a folder called cryptklr 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahacris Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 Thanks Man. What about other questions? Maybe some clues? Is it right that one game used only one zip file and only one folder with chd file? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondorito Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Hey @vahacris, if you are 100% sure you have a non merged set, then each zip file is a standalone version of a game, and you can remove the other zip variations if you dont want them in your library. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahacris Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 Thanks for answer. Im 100% sure, i choose this set because previously i download merged one and have problem with deleting the games i dont play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondorito Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Great. I asked because if you have a split set, you would not be able to do that, as child zips need their parent to run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahacris Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 Yes i'm pretty sure i have non-merged set. One more questrion - are there any clones worth playing? i always don't even import them to LB as i was thinking their just other language versions, etc. But now i hear that there are some decent versions of games like street fighter 30th anniversary version or something like that. please let me know what you guys think about it. is there like thousends of those clones? i don't want to spend another year to play all clones just to add 4 or 5 good clones to my MAME collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondorito Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Here is a list, made with clones worth playing (either for their gameplay, their addons from the original version, or for their 4 player vs 2 player version). It was made by some of the users from the HS community some years ago, but the list is still current: Game Parent Clone Manufacturer Notes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All American Football aafb aafbd2p Leland 2 player version Afterburner aburner2 aburner Sega Afterburner 1 Atlant Olimpic trackfld atlantol Bootleg/Konami Track & Field based on Atlanta Olympics, different controls, men & women. Bad Dudes vs. Dragonninja baddudes drgninja Data East Japanese version has different background music and different ending Bubble Bobble: Lost Cave bublbobl bublcave Hack/Taito Bubble Bobble with caves that couldn't be found... I guess... Super Bubble Bobble bublbobl sboblbobla Bootleg/Taito Super Bubble Bobble, minor changes Cabal cabal cabalus TAD/Fabtek Trackball version Captain America Avengers captaven captavenu Data East US version, not really that different Combat School combatsc combatsct Konami Trackball version Cyberball cyberbal cyberbal2p Atari 2 player version D. D. Crew ddcrew ddcrew2 Sega 2 player version Defend the Terra Attack redufo exodus Bootleg/Subelectro Bootleg of Red UFO, Slightly improved graphics Donkey Kong Foundry dkong dkongf Hack/Nintendo Donkey Kong hack Donkey Kong Pauline Ed. dkong dkongpe Hack/Nintendo Donkey Kong hack Donkey Kong II dkong dkongx11 Hack/Nintendo Donkey Kong hack, new levels etc Galaga galaga galagamf Namco/Midway Fast shoot Galaxian Part X galaxian galapx Hack/Irem Faster and have faster rate of fire which makes totally different game Galaxian Turbo galaxian galturbo Hack/Irem Faster and have faster rate of fire which makes totally different game Gauntlet II gaunt2 gaunt22p Atari 2 player version Gauntlet gauntlet gauntlet2p Atari 2 player version Geurilla War gwar gwarb SNK Joystick hack Golden Tee 2000 Tournament gt2k gt2kt500 Incredible Tournament edition Ikari Warriors ikari ikarijpb Hack/SNK Joystick hack Ikari III: The Rescue ikari3 ikari3u SNK Rotary version Ironman I.S. Super Off Road offroad offroadt2p Leland 2 player version Rambo 3 ikari ikariram Bootleg/SNK Rambo version of Ikari Wariors with joystick hack Joust joust joustr Williams Pterodactyl scoring bug Karate Champ Vs. Version kchamp Kchampvs2 Data East 2 Player vs. version King of Fighters 2005 Anniv kof2002 kf2k5uni Eolith/Playmore Anniversary edition hack of KoF 2002, changed graphics, music, characters Land Maker landmakr landmakrp Taito English translation Life Force salamand lifefrce Konami Enhanced Salamander, US and JP versions (lifefrcej) have new graphics, improved gameplay Main Event mainevt mainevt2p Konami 2 player version Major Havoc mhavoc mhavocrv Atari/JMA Return to Vax hack, easier then original, extra levels, minor play changes Marvel vs Street Fighter mshvsf mshvsfj Capcom Japanese version gives you an extra character Ms. Pac Man mspacman mspacmnf Midway/Namco Speedup hack NBA Maximum Hangtime nbahangt nbamht1 Midway Updated roster to NBA Hangtime, minor play changes NBA Maximum Hangtime nbahangt nbamht Midway 2nd update to NBA Maximum Hangtime Night Slasher nslasher nslasherj Data East JP version is uncensored - red blood and some different and extended scenes Pacman puckman pacman Namco/Midway Original pacman game Pacman puckman pacmanf Namco/Midway Speedup hack Peggle peggle pegglet Strata/Incredible Trackball version Pirate Pete junglek piratpet Taito Pirate-based version of Jungle Hunt Punk Shot punkshot punkshot2 Konami 2 player version Qix II Tournament qix qix2 Taito Enhanced version of Qix with different colors and bonus features Quartet 2 quartet quartet2a Sega 2player version of quartet with no emulation protection Rambo III rambo3 rambo3u Taito US version different ending Rampart rampart rampart2p Atari Joystick version Robocop 2 robocop2 robocop2j Data East JP version has extra playable into leveland extra scene at the end Ninja Gaiden shadoww gaiden Tecmo Shadow Warriors US version has different music and fighting/difficulty diffs Simpsons simpsons simpsons2p Konami 2 player version Simpsons simpsons simpsons2pj Konami 2 player version but with multiple fixes (https://goo.gl/mt8Gb1) Sunset Riders ssriders ssridersubc Konami 2 player version Street Fighter II: Hyper Fight sf2hf sf2hfj Capcom Turbo version incorporates unofficial hacks and is supposed to be the best in the series SSF2 X: Grand Master ssf2t ssf2xj Capcom Grand Master turbo edition Tempest Tubes tempest temptube Atari Version of Tempest with different shapes Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles tmnt tmnt2po Konami 2 player version TMNT 2 Turtles in Time tmnt2 tmnt22pu Konami 2 player version Typhoon ajax typhoon Konami This version of Ajax has a different stage order and possible additional level Undercover Cops: A.R. Version uccops uccopsar Irem Alpha Renewal version has better graphics and additional character moves Vendetta vendetta vendetta2p Konami 2 player world version. Vendetta vendetta vendetta2pu Konami 2 player Asian version with bikers and dogs that grab, hump, and lick the player... X-Men xmen xmen2pa Konami 2 player version X-Men Dual Monitor xmen xmen6p Konami 6 player dual screen version. Zero Team 2000 zeroteam zerotm2k Seibu Kaihatsu You must unclone both Zero Team games because there actually is no parent New Zero Team zeroteam nzeroteam Seibu Kaihatsu You must unclone both Zero Team games because there actually is no parent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spycat Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 You may also come across games where the parent is unplayable but a clone is. For example, as you're on MAME 179, the parent of the game Alligator Hunt is protected and becomes unplayable shortly after starting, whereas it's clone is unprotected and fully playable. The parent didn't become working until MAME 190 or thereabouts. Also, since you've tried every game in your romset at least once, if you are going to delete quite a few chd based games you should also tidy up MAME's diff folder. These chd related data files can be big and add up to a nice amount of space on your hd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vahacris Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 Thanx spycat. The problem is that i would have to play all clones to find the ones that are playable instead of parent games which is too much for me. i don't have another year for that ;] I understand i can delete all files from diff folder? delete files for games that i leave in my collection will recreate when i play those games again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spycat Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 That's correct. You can just delete the diff folder altogether. The first time you then run a game that uses a chd, MAME will recreate the diff folder and add files to it every time a new game is first run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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