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So you've deleted fanart images because they don't "imitate the style and size" of an official box. This is not a rule. Fanart is fanart, and you don't get to decide what dimensions it should have or what it should look like. You've deleted images for having what you believe is the incorrect region tag. This is also against the database rules. If anything the region should be changed and corrected. You've deleted images for being tagged with an incorrect image type rather than tag it with the correct image type. You've justified the unwarranted deletion of fanart as normal and a way to "counter-troll" perceived abuses of being mistagged rather than correct the tags: In addition, you're trying to slander these images as offensive. Canuck is not a pejorative word against Canadian people. It's actually a term of pride and endearment and originates from blending "Canadian" and "inuk" (the Inuit word for "man"). It's literally a shorthand for saying "Canadian Man". Canadians have both a national hockey team and a rugby team named the Canucks, and a quick web search will reveal the harmless nature of the word, even when you use search terms like "Is Canuck a pejorative?" See screenshot below. As for your other points about region, the fanart box front in question uses an oval seal which imitates the official oval Nintendo seal that was historically used on North American boxes, except this fanart seal explicitly states it is USA only. And the fanart box back uses the same seal as well as additional text in two other places that explicitly states that it is USA only and not a North American release. Not only do you delete images for having an incorrect region tag, but you also delete images when they do have the correct region tag. You've claimed you deleted these images "because the user who uploaded it insists on labeling it as something it is not." What exactly is incorrect about the region tags? Is the region not United States? The box itself tells you its region in multiple differing instances via text. Or is it not the incorrectness of the tag that offends you? Is it the tag itself? Do you believe the United States region tag should never be used? If the region tag is not the labeling that offends you so much that you must delete the images, then it must be the label of fanart itself. I think we've finally come to the heart of the issue now. You don't believe it is fanart. In your reply to this thread, you've described the images as "strange" and twice voiced your disapproval of their unique design, as well as attempted to slander the images as offensive. Why do you believe that you alone get to decide what is and isn't art? Which brings me back to my original point: Please stop deleting fanart simply because it does not suit your particular tastes. I've also witnessed you delete on multiple occasions clear logos that are tagged correctly and exactly replicate the official logo, such as this one: Image Type: Clear Logo (North America) And on multiple occasions you've insisted on mislabeling your own fanart logo and continually changing its tag from regionless to North America. Fanart Logo left in database as Image Type: Clear Logo. It's been explained to you multiple times that the blue and black outline around the letters D & I on the fanart logo does not match the official logo on the box. I know this because I've made this request myself, and unlike you, rather than delete or overwrite the fanart, I simply removed the region tag, and uploaded the correct official logo as a seperate image. Here's the official box for reference: Now as much as you'd like to hide behind your claimed standard of only deleting images that are mislabeled, and tagging all unofficial images as regionless, I've witnessed you delete clear logos for other game entries with no other reason than it's fanart, despite no other logo existing in the database for those games. In those cases, you would rather other users have nothing, while you yourself actively take part in mislabeling, mistagging, and miscategorizing fanart to suit your own whims simply because you like the look of this art more. Now I appreciate the time and effort you have put into the database over the years, but it is not yours alone. Please stop removing assets that others find useful. I'm asking you to please stop deleting images. The deletion of fanart images in particular is especially egregious because it is often extremely difficult to impossible to recover them from other sources.
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I'd like to remind everyone of the following rule incase you missed it: "Images should only be deleted if they are duplicates, don't match the game they are assigned to, or are of very poor quality." I've now seen the following images get deleted and re-added multiple times: Game: Gradius III for SNES Image Type: Fanart - Box - Front (United States) Image Type: Fanart - Box - Back (United States) These aren't duplicates, they match the game they are assigned to, and they are not very poor quality. Please stop deleting fanart simply because it does not suit your particular tastes. It's a waste of moderators' time to keep seeing the same images put up for deletion and addition.
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Help Us Expand the LaunchBox Games Database!
LonestarK replied to AstroBob's topic in News and Updates
If we're never getting a Super Game Boy platform, can we at least get a new image type for screenshots of the Super Game Boy Borders / Palettes for all the SGB enhanced games? Something like "Screenshot - SGB Enhancement" -
Help Us Expand the LaunchBox Games Database!
LonestarK replied to AstroBob's topic in News and Updates
TIC-80 Lifespan: 2017 - Present **Examples of its exclusive games: 8-Bit Panda, Balmung, and Cauliflower Power are among its top rated games, plus another 4800+ more games. **Significance: TIC-80 is becoming popular with games programmers who are interested in developing retro style games. There is a large and growing catalog of games available with roughly 3906 games available for free via the TIC-80 website, and another 947 available via itch.io for various prices. Itch.io ranks the TIC-80 as #18 in the top most used game development platforms currently being used by its developers. (https://itch.io/game-development/engines/most-projects) **Impact on existing platforms in the database: TIC-80 games can be exported and bundled to run on different platforms, including among others Android, Linux, MacOS, Windows, Nintendo 3DS, and the Web Browser platform via HTML5. I think it would be best to have these games contained within its own platform rather than have duplicated entries among these various platforms. -
Do you get told why proposed changes get rejected?
LonestarK replied to TheNotSoPro893's topic in Contributions
Unfortunately, if the change is ultimately accepted, you'll never see the reason why that one moderator rejected it. Just one of the limitations of our current system. -
https://gamesdb.launchbox-app.com/games/details/82314-nova-near-orbit-vanguard-alliance should be the entry for the physical PSP release, not the PSP Mini. I submitted a request to change the entry's platform field to correct this error.
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Games Being Deleted From the Database without a Reason
LonestarK replied to LonestarK's topic in Contributions
Thank you for your contribution but I believe it is muddying the point. These games were not duplicate entries on separate platforms; these games were completely deleted from the database. And the image files are now completely lost. Changing the platform field in the games entry from any one OS to PICO-8 is a forgivable mistake, completely deleting an entire game entry rather than correct that one field is vandalization of the database. -
Retheme Update to the LaunchBox Games Database - January 2024
LonestarK replied to faeran's topic in News and Updates
I can provide a reason when making changes to images, but there doesn't seem to be a way to enter a reason when editing fields in the details page. -
The following games have been deleted from the database. Who submitted the deletions? What reasons were provided? Who approved the deletions? There is a very limited set of valid reasons to delete anything from the database. Games List: Brutal Pico Race Freezing Knights Frog King Get Out of This Dungeon Ghost Detective Gifts on Venus Golf Sunday Into Ruins Just One Boss Kalikan Low Mem Sky Marballs Marballs 2 Motion REC Mot's 8 Ball Pool Ozelotl Rocket to the Top Snow The Adventures of Jelpi The Merciless Deep The games were released via lexaloffle.com for the PICO-8 platform and released via itch.io for the Windows, OS X, and Linux platforms. The LaunchBox database had these games under the Linux platform just a few weeks ago. I checked to see if the entries had simply been moved to the PICO-8 platform, newly implemented to the database, by someone who mistakenly believes that the game was only released to just the PICO-8 platform; This is not the case, these entries have been completely deleted.
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Any thoughts on whether VR movies such as the one at the link below should or should not have entries in the database? https://store.steampowered.com/app/500380/UNCORPOREAL__Fluffy/
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I too would like to add this platform to the db. edit: If anyone else wants the multitude of missing platforms added to the database, please vote on the issue to be made a priority: https://bitbucket.org/jasondavidcarr/launchbox/issues/6461/adding-missing-platforms-to-the-games
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Moderator Guidelines and Contributor Rules
LonestarK replied to Jason Carr's topic in News and Updates
collaborations happen. Also some studios may begin development that then gets completed by another but the first group's work was so fundamental that they still get credited. -
Moderator Guidelines and Contributor Rules
LonestarK replied to Jason Carr's topic in News and Updates
They have different publishers, Froggo, John Sands, Panda, Zellers, & Tang's. The developer is the same: Sancho. And every title screen from each of these different regions/re-releases features Sancho's copyright. -
I haven't come across one of your requests in the queue, but I can think of a few reasons why you might get a rejection, just looking at the links you posted above; let's use this one as an example: Guitar Hero On Tour: https://gamesdb.launchbox-app.com/games/images/6517-guitar-hero-on-tour Original: New Submission: Possible Rejection Reasons: 1. Adding an extra cart image with no real variation / Adding a Duplicate Image (Should be a replacement of original image) 2. New Submission has smaller dimensions than original 3. New Submission's sticker is slightly out of focus / lower quality than original The original image isn't great, so I think an argument can be made for replacement. The original has a color palette that needs correction, it shows physical damage, and the sticker placement is slightly askew. The new submission having smaller dimensions isn't a dealbreaker for me, but being out of focus is. Personally I don't care if the cart image is an actual photograph or just someone's photoshop, as long as it's accurate and it looks good. And as far as "why not both?", I think some would argue it inflates bandwidth, storage size, and potentially inconveniences the end user to sort through multiple cart images. I think this inconvenience can be avoided with a new cart recon image type. JereBear's solution may be the best until that gets implemented.
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Please add J2ME to the list of platforms. There's over 1000 games that could be added to the database under the Java 2 Micro Edition platform. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Platform%2C_Micro_Edition https://www.mobygames.com/platform/j2me/ I'd like to add some art assets to the db that are unique to Vivendi Games's version of Leisure Suit Larry: Love for Sail released on the J2ME platform in 2007.
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LaunchBox Games Database Updates for March 1st, 2023
LonestarK replied to Jason Carr's topic in News and Updates
experiencing the same pending issue. attempting to change this box top from a banner to a box spine. -
Pretty sure multiple users in multiple threads have said that your issue with retroachievements would be resolved if you added the subset title as an alternate name to the base game.
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Who has written this? Is there a ghost here?
LonestarK replied to xevious1974's topic in Contributions
Okay, so would an alternate name work or does it have to be a primary? Forgive my ignorance; I don't use retroachievements. -
Who has written this? Is there a ghost here?
LonestarK replied to xevious1974's topic in Contributions
I don't quite understand. It sounds like you haven't tried adding the name as an alternate name on the original game entry in the database; on the basis that you don't want to litter the database with alternate names, but you're okay littering the database with duplicate game entries. It's my understanding that RA loads trophy sets based on the hash value of the rom/iso, not the name of the rom/iso. Sounds like there's an issue with the playlist you're trying to share. -
Who has written this? Is there a ghost here?
LonestarK replied to xevious1974's topic in Contributions
Have you tried adding "Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock [Subset: Expert Full Combos]" as an Alternate Name on the Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock game entry? -
These merges have only started in the last few weeks, and have now spread to the attempted merging of completely different games that share nothing in common other than having the same name in different regions. Multiple users have voiced legitimate concerns and gave examples of the negative consequences that merging has on the database. Consequences that include the inability to differentiate which information is for which of the different games contained within the single entry (information like release dates, developers, publishers, and even game type, in cases such as Edd the Duck, an unreleased but leaked game); the inability to provide unique videoURLs for each of the different games showing the different gameplay/graphics or provide unique descriptions/overviews for each game's story and history; the increased burden on LaunchBox's end users to sort through the jumbled entry to determine which portion of the overview, which images, and other information applies to which game; as well as other concerns and consequences touched upon in this thread alone. These concerns and consequences have been dismissed out of hand by a single user, with the misconception that we just always merge games around here, always have and always will. Said user, as a means of blocking further discussion, makes blanket statements insinuating that these matters have long ago been settled, but without actually referencing any specific discussion, link any topic, show any kind of statement from anyone with authority, or even quote an official guideline or rule. He uses a "just because" fallacy to protect his own misguided status quo bias, one that might not even be based on an accurate interpretation of the status quo. All of this is incredibly poor form when discussing any matter, and does not foster cooperation or debate. This user then proceeded to merge even more games together when other users illustrated that his reasoning was flawed and provided examples where different games of similar circumstances were not merged. Said user has a mistaken understanding of the concepts of "same" and "different", as well as a misunderstanding of the moderator guidelines and contributor rules. Rule 3 states: Rule 3 was created to merge multi-disc games which previously had an entry for each disc, and greatest hits/platinum type games which were just re-releases of their base game, but with an exception for special editions that were different from their base games and would thus maintain their own entry. It was not created for merging different games. One of the keystones of LaunchBox's core mission statement is to make your games beautiful, another is to provide the end user with an easy-to-use frontend to easily organize without being forced to customize. The added burden to the end user as a result of this user's merges are in violation of both of these tenets. Furthermore, said user's own "merge it all" policy is inconsistent, and leads to an inconsistent experience for the end user. Why, under said user's policy, are we to ration and jumble official entries or even some unreleased prototype entries, but provide a much better service for romhacks? I ask that all moderators stop participating in the merging of these games, as it has clear negative effects on the database and its end users, it violates the core principles of the LaunchBox frontend, and it has no basis in the moderator guidelines and contributor rules.
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We're Back was regionalized as We're Back in Italy, Bamse in Sweden, Baby T-Rex in Germany, and was to be regionalized in the UK as Edd the Duck, but the UK version wasn't officially released. Three regionalizations for three different regions. There was no crossover on these. You're relying on the ambiguity that these different regions are all on the same continent.
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Except it's not the same scenario. In none of your examples were the games released twice within a single region, once in its unmodified form and then again in a modified form.