Fursphere

After attract mode runs for a few hours, the image cache for wheel images seems to go blank again... Example:

After Beta 3 - I had to force-refresh all images to get the wheel images to show up again. After the force refresh, everything seems fine.

Just installed Beta-3 on four machines. No issues with the installs. Good News - 'BigBox --> Shutdown --> LEDBlinky "execute 'exit front-end' command before executing windows shutdown" code improvement is working. Thank you! Not So Good News - Looks like LaunchBox is auto-discovering and configuring controllers again. 100% of the time this configures a controller that shouldn't be used in Launchbox and causes complete loss of mouse control (most consistent behavior is mouse always moves down). Turning off the game controller stops the behavior, then unbinding everything. This was 'fixed' a few versions ago I had thought, but with Beta 3, it appears to be back. (this time it was the Fanatec wheels). (Not sure if BigBox is doing this too - I forgot to check) On the suspected memory leak issue I observed with Beta 1 - I haven't been able to re-create it. So... hoping that was just something goofy with my installs and a fluke. I'll let them run tomorrow and see how it goes on Beta 3.

I'll get some numbers / screenshots for you later today. I'll fire up the cabinets in a minute. Lets say - 'idle' Win11 on a fresh boot is consuming like.. 6gb of memory (or something). I fire up BigBox and just let it run in attract mode for hours. After like.. 6 hours, system has 11gb of memory consumed (11gb/16gb). I shut down BigBox, return to Windows. Task Manager still shows like 10gb/16gb used. That's a memory leak in my book - something is using memory and not properly releasing it. There is probably a tool I can get to 'see' it (raw memory usage). Maybe. This happens on both of my cabinets / BigBox installs. If I boot up the PC and launch HyperSpin 2.0 instead (I've got a startup menu...), this doesn't happen. Doesn't happen with Launchbox.exe either. Just BigBox. Anyway, let me see what I can dig up to support this.

Beta-2 BigBox Memory Leak is not fixed. Still gobbles up gigabytes of memory and never gives it back. (even after closing BigBox - requires a full reboot to clear out) I ran the updated VLC media player for a couple of hours without issue. No crashes or anything.

Any updates on that memory leak issue?

Beta-1 appears to have a nasty memory leak. After 5-6 hours of attract mode, I'm seeing my systems run out of memory and crash. (16gb total system memory)

ON the cabinet I switched to FFMpeg - BigBox did crash out after a couple of hours. So its not just you. I'm not sure of the exact time, because I wasn't paying close attention to it. But it absolutely crashed to the desktop with no error message on the screen. Other cabinet running WMP was still cruising along in attract mode.

@faeran On the shutdown routine. This is a long standing bug / backdoor feature request, but since you're working on the shutdown code base right now anyway.... My twin driving cabinets use Ultimarc PAC-Drives for lighting up LEDs. These are latching - meaning if they are ON when the PC shuts down, they STAY ON (as long as they have power of course). So on those machines, I have to EXIT BigBox, wait for BigBox to fire the LEDBLinky "exit frontend" routine (turn off the LEDs), then gracefully shutdown Windows. If I use the BigBox built in shutdown routine - It doesn't seem to fire the LEDLlinky "frontend exit" routine, and the LEDs (buttons) stay on, even after the PC powers off. So the ask if you can work it in - Can you add the "LEDBlinky Frontend EXIT" routine to the BigBox shutdown routine and make sure it fires BEFORE it starts the Windows Shutdown commands?

@JaredN Doesn't address your issue, but I let my cabinet run on WMP mode yesterday for 12+ hours in attract mode without issue. I can switch one of mine to FFMPEG and see if it crashes. See if its application code, or environmental based (your windows install vs. my windows install, for example).

Ok. I believe you. My solution was to just buy bigger drives and unzip everything at rest (that needed to be unzipped). And trim my collection to remove all the garbage. (terrabytes of bad stuff... lol)

The 'bug' is that the plugin has not been updated for the newer versions of .NET. There is nothing wrong with LB/BB itself. There are a couple of project forks that have been updated to run with the newer versions of launchbox. You should check them out. (github --> insights --> forks) https://github.com/fraganator/archive-cache-manager

The new shutdown routine is pretty cool. Nice touch. Both of my upright cabinets have been updated to the beta and are running good so far.

Got tired of waiting for this to be an official feature, so I vibe coded a plugin.

BigBox Trackball & Spinner Wheel Support View File Trackball & Spinner Support for BigBox Navigation. Supports X & Y axis (configurable) to simulate up/down/left/right menu movement. Option menu support to configure speeds and behavior. Its not perfect, but it does work pretty well. It disables itself when a game is launched. If there is interest in the source, I can put it up on github or something. Just ask. Submitter Fursphere Submitted 05/29/2026 Category Third-party Apps and Plugins  

That's my point though. <open source software> + <the internet> = you can't stop the signal This is why there are fifty-seven-hundred-thousand linux distributions. Someone does something someone else doesn't like (and discussions fail - if they're even attempted) and the whole project is forked. Sometimes soft, sometimes hard. Its the equivalent of "I'm taking my ball and going home". Or getting pissed off at the the state of the board game and flipping the table. "I can't even with these people anymore!" This is awesome in the sense that you can't stop someone for doing whatever they want. This is horrible in the sense that it lets people do whatever they want. lol Linux's worst enemy is not Windows. Its the Linux community.

The only thing I could find is that Google is adding restrictions to side loading and developer verification. This does not close the source. This does not prevent anyone from "rolling their own". This means that officially released versions will have these new added 'features' by default.

Huh? Android is open source, under the Apache 2.0 license. You can fork it and close your fork, but you can't put the original genie back in the bottle.

Why can't you use ledblinky? You can use a batch file that catches BigBox LEDBLINKY output and passes it onto whatever platform you are using. That's all BIGBOX is doing. Literally throwing commands at the command line. Assuming you're on windows, you can use this to start... make a batch file called "catcher.bat" (or whatever). Tell bigbox that "catcher.bat" is your LEDBLINKY executable. Fire up bigbox and play around. Everything you do that would interact with ledblinky will be output to 'catcherlog.txt' Then you can figure out how to translate that to whatever you are using. (if linux, you can do the same with a shell .sh script - but I don't know the syntax - you can probably use chatgpt to convert it) echo . >> catcherlog.txt echo Start >> catcherlog.txt echo %date% %time% >> catcherlog.txt echo Arguments Received: %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 >> catcherlog.txt set filename=%1 set filenameWithoutExtension=%~n1% echo Filename: %filename% >> catcherlog.txt echo Filename without extension: %filenameWithoutExtension% >> catcherlog.txt Echo Finish>> catcherlog.txt notepad catcherlog.txt

Launchbox isn't free. I feel like you completely missed my point.

While true, I think this view is far more important: That's just the top 6 distros in the category, and they don't even make up a full percentage point. How many others are in there? Trying to support all of that would be a nightmare, with all the different package managers.

Progress is progress! I'll take it. thank you!

Any chance you could work trackball / spinner bigbox "wheel" control into this release?