PowerCooker Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 This is giving me a headacke as no matter what I do I cant get this damn thing to run I downloaded retroarch, I installed it, went to cores, told it to download Saturn beetle, said it was installed. I opened retroarch, closed retroarch, put the bios in the systems folder, made a ROMS folder and placed my game in there, went to load core, selected beetle, went to load content and selected the rom folder, selected the game file and no matter what I do I just get failed to load. I have the game format as a MDF-MDS file but that refused to load. Zipped those into 1 file and they still refused to load Had a zipped file of the same game but as a CUE file and yet that still refused to load some please....the hell am I doing wrong here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Are your bios correct ? Are they named correctly and have the correct checksums ? https://docs.libretro.com/library/beetle_saturn/#bios Here are the supported file types: supported_extensions = "cue|toc|m3u|ccd|chd" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerCooker Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) im using the bios from my yabusa (however its spelled) emulator and that's got like several different versions. I put them all in and tested the game with each one and nothing worked. I typed in the one below and downloaded it off a certain emu site and put that in and yet still the game refuses to load I go to scan directory - select roms and yet nothing shows up on the side. its seeing them its just not adding them to the side for some reason pretty sure I have this one mpr-17933.bin Saturn US/EU BIOS - Required for US/EU games Edited December 2, 2018 by PowerCooker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerCooker Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 no one got any idea at all why this isn't working then? i downloaded the beetle core, made a roms folder, put the cue,bin file in there, put the bios in the system folder, audited the folder to scan for roms (nothing showed up for Saturn but my mega drive roms showed up) tried to load the rom manually (Saturn one) and i just get an error failed to load message. is there a reason why when i scan the folders my Saturn games don't show? I've updated the core and the database so wtf am i doing wrong here? I thought mednafen through retroarch was meant to be easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 minute ago, PowerCooker said: no one got any idea at all why this isn't working then? i downloaded the beetle core, made a roms folder, put the cue,bin file in there, put the bios in the system folder, audited the folder to scan for roms (nothing showed up for Saturn but my mega drive roms showed up) tried to load the rom manually (Saturn one) and i just get an error failed to load message. is there a reason why when i scan the folders my Saturn games don't show? I've updated the core and the database so wtf am i doing wrong here? I thought mednafen through retroarch was meant to be easy Error fail to load is usually because the game or the bios is wrong/broken,if you load the core and go to info in the main Retroarch UI does it show the bios as present? Also you dont need to scan the games into retroarch, but if you are and its not seeing it that usually only happens if you dont have the core for that system downloaded. My games imported there fine but mine are in CHD format. Also when you try to load the game in Retroarch you are loading the .cue right not the .bin, bins dont work in the beetle saturn core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerCooker Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 i tried loading the cue file but again, error.... i have the right bios unless I'm a complete idiot and someone else can link me to one they KNOW works. I'm sure the one i have is right but no matter what i do it just refuses to work. I'm remembering why i never liked my Saturn now .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, PowerCooker said: i tried loading the cue file but again, error.... i have the right bios unless I'm a complete idiot and someone else can link me to one they KNOW works. I'm sure the one i have is right but no matter what i do it just refuses to work. I'm remembering why i never liked my Saturn now .... No we cant link bios files. Have you actually checked in Retroarch that it is the correct bios like i asked? The name may be the same but that doesnt mean it is correct or will work, retroarch will say its present if correct, like you can see in this image. Both my JAP and US/EU say they are present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerCooker Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 not to sound stupid but can u explain what menus u go to so i can access were u r in the image? pretty sure i have all the us/jap and other bios. I have them all opened as loose files but also zipped too. Am i meant to LOAD the bios manually or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 To get to that screen that Neil is showing load the core for Mednafen Saturn then go to Info then core information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerCooker Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) ok I FINALLY managed to get it to load 1 single game it still wont find fighters megamix however when I loaded fighting vipers it ran like a toaster...graphics looked awful....sound was a mess.... what gives? yabusa runs things better than this...what did I do wrong I try and run fighters megamix manually and it says uncorrupable data sector 8 or something? Edited December 5, 2018 by PowerCooker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, PowerCooker said: im really starting to hate this piece of crap emulator The emulator is fantastic, if it doesn't work you either have incorrect bios, incorrectly named bios (case matters) or you have bad disk images. There are a ton of bad disk images out there and the emulator requires good disk dumps, ReDump and DarkWater are both good dumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Mednafen Saturn is resource intensive so your mileage will be dependent on your PC specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerCooker Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 I don't think I should have any trouble with 16gb ram and a gtx970 somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, PowerCooker said: I don't think I should have any trouble with 16gb ram and a gtx970 somehow It doesnt care about your GPU as its not used, it's all down to your CPU clock speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 And yes you will get better performance from Yabuase, but its a far far worse emulator and highly inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerCooker Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 it doesn't use my Gpu at all?..... that's perhaps the most stupidest thing I've ever heard all month. does it even run the graphics off the Gpu or is it running off my motherboard? Christ i thought this emulator was meant to be good. It's like I've gone back in time to 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, PowerCooker said: it doesn't use my Gpu at all?..... that's perhaps the most stupidest thing I've ever heard all month. does it even run the graphics off the Gpu or is it running off my motherboard? Christ i thought this emulator was meant to be good. It's like I've gone back in time to 1999 You will find most emulators only use the CPU, some use a GPU as well but not many. I think you may need to read up on how emulation actually works, the vast majority of it is all done on the CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerCooker Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 since when? dolphin uses my gpu to run the games, redream is using my gpu to run games, nulldc and demul seem to be using my gpu to run the games, my n64 games seem to be running off the gpu, cemu while it does take stuff from my cpu its using my gpu to run it Even my psx emulator is using my gpu to run stuff. This is practically the only emulator ive used which has been a nightmare to get to bloody run anything Your HONESTLY telling me there are no settings in this emulator to change things to run off my gpu? I cant do things like add AA or change the resolution to a higher setting? this emulator just isn't worth it if that's the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 In all emulators CPU is the most important driving force in driving it. GPU is only used for graphical enhancements and in some cases shader caches and outputting the image itself to your monitor. You can say that Mednafen or the RA Beetle core isn't worth it or even bad but it is by far the best Saturn emulation you will find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerCooker Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 if I can run a game like Mario kart 8 perfectly, gamecube resident evil code veronica x perfectly and various others....yet this Saturn emulator cant run fighting vipers while my am2 emulator can...…….Christ..... just like when I actually owned a Saturn back when it first came out its disappointed me yet again. I literally just wana play 2 games off it and that's it. If mednafen really is the best emulator for this console then someone needs to go back and start again because its awful if its this badly made. Thanks for the help guys but im just gona leave this alone. Its not worth the hassle to just play 2 average games at best. Ill just stick to my other games or focus on emulators which can actually work properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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