CadetStimpy Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 (but also ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutumnSounds Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Is this that ridiculous thing where Americans seem to think Trans people are all sex offenders / criminals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Republican based add so don't attempt to find sense in it, it was made for people who already hate Obama and anything different from them so questioning the validity of it is out of the question for them. Many Americans only like freedom and equality until it makes them uncomfortable then its time for the Frankensteinesque mob scene to destroy the monsters before they totally eradicate the moral fiber of our country. I usually avoid political posts because I'm sure someone will find offense but this is just ridiculous fear mongering which is the number 1 play in the extremely tiresome Republican playbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadetStimpy Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 AutumnSounds said Is this that ridiculous thing where Americans seem to think Trans people are all sex offenders / criminals? Might be. I believe the issue that many people aren't liking is that, say, a trans-gender male whose hasn't yet had the 'transforming' operation, can enter the Woman's/Girl's bathroom, while still sporting his package. Granted, he'll be behind a stall door, but what about when he goes into the Woman's Locker Room? That's my understanding of it, and I can see where the concern comes from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadetStimpy Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 DOS76 said Republican based add so don't attempt to find sense in it, it was made for people who already hate Obama and anything different from them so questioning the validity of it is out of the question for them. Many Americans only like freedom and equality until it makes them uncomfortable then its time for the Frankensteinesque mob scene to destroy the monsters before they totally eradicate the moral fiber of our country. I usually avoid political posts because I'm sure someone will find offense but this is just ridiculous fear mongering which is the number 1 play in the extremely tiresome Republican playbook. Personally, I hate almost every politician (with the possible exception of Newark's former Mayor (now a Senator), Cody Booker). They're all nothing but self-serving liars, IMHO. If Spock (aka U.S.S. Enterprises' Science Officer) were running for Prez, I'd vote for him in a second. All decisions based on logic for the good of the whole - that's what I'm talkin' about! P.S. You're right about the wisdom of avoiding political Posts. What was I thinkin'? I'll be more careful in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromlostdays Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 It's even worse than that Autumn. It isn't even that people are thinking crimes and violence might take place. It's that they'd would rather marginalize thousands of people rather than take the the chance they might have to see something that makes them uncomfortable. Having said that, we have our problems as country, but at least we're having a national dialogue about it. When you ask 300 plus million people their opinion, you're going to hear stuff you don't like. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistyDollars Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Seven years of Reagan, and even Reagan forgot which bathroom to use... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutumnSounds Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Cadet Stimpy said Might be. I believe the issue that many people aren't liking is that, say, a trans-gender male whose hasn't yet had the 'transforming' operation, can enter the Woman's/Girl's bathroom, while still sporting his package. Granted, he'll be behind a stall door, but what about when he goes into the Woman's Locker Room? That's my understanding of it, and I can see where the concern comes from. Just to clear a few things up for education: ** I think you may be referring to a Trans Woman, as a Trans Man would be someone who was assigned female at birth and is now transitioning to Male. (It would be rather disrespectful to keep calling a Trans Woman a Man and not use their preferred pronouns, otherwise, no?) ** I'm not confident a persons genitalia is what defines their gender... if a guy loses his in a horrific accident, does he automatically become a Woman? So what ever is between someone's legs (that you'll never see or ever have the right to ask what's there) is kinda irrelevant. ** In a locker room (I guess America doesn't use cubicles or changing rooms which is a shame) environment I think the Trans person is likely the be absolutely petrified compared to anyone else. If the individual is the type to be parading themselves on show, that's a matter of that individual's inappropriateness. Like if someone peeks at you over your cubicle's door in a bathroom, you tell the authorities about that person, no all people that have the same look or skin colour or religion, etc. To note: If a Trans person is in your bathroom, the likelihood of them being there for a sexual gain for them is close to nil. Reason: If they are ACTUALLY Trans, they will be on Hormone Replacement Therapy for some years before even surgery is refereed to them. The HRT medication pretty much all but leaves them with barely any sex drive. So it's best to maybe just not worry about it all and if someone is being a pervert in a bathroom, get them arrested... otherwise I'd advise you to look up "Shawn Stinson" on google image search or similar because if the "bathroom bill" came into effect, that Trans Man and many others like him will be forced by law to use the Women's bathroom. And that would be pretty crazy. But we're in a pretty and crazy and diverse world. Let's just love each other and worry about actual problems. <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadetStimpy Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 Just to clear a few things up for education: ** I think you may be referring to a Trans Woman I don't know what I'm referring to, or even what I'm talkin' about most of the time. After a veer of this Topic I hadn't anticipated, I started an informal Poll of the issue. Most folks don't seem to give a crap about it. My observations are that it's mostly parents with younger daughters that are the most concerned. I have two daughters (adults, now), and I don't believe I would've wanted either one of them to see some ugly-ass protrusion hangin' off some strangers crotch. To note: If a Trans person is in your bathroom, the likelihood of them being there for a sexual gain for them is close to nil. I totally agree. But we're in a pretty and crazy and diverse world. Let's just love each other and worry about actual problems Ultra-Ditto on that one, AutumnSounds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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