ItchyRobot Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, JaysArcade said: Built it myself. It's using a KL25Z device with the Pinscape firmware for nudge and plunger. Works perfectly. The plunger is attached to a linear potentiometer that is interfaced with the KL25Z. DOF is programmed to use ZB launch with the plunger for tables that use a launch button instead of an actual plunger. Basically sends the launch ball command when you pull the plunger instead of pulling the plunger back. That is one of my proudest accomplishments - not needing a launch ball button in addition to a plunger which I see a lot of builders do. The main playfield is 27", backglass 19" and a 7" screen for the DMD. The monitors are only 1080p though. It has 2 power supplies (3 if you count the one the PC uses). The LEDs require a lot of power. Led-wiz for the buttons and speaker leds. Teensy controller for addressable LEDs for back matrix (this was another proud accomplishment. It is the only mini pinball table I've seen with Addressable LEDs). It has some speaker subwoofer combo for the back glass speakers (can't remember what they are off the top of my head) in addition to two small Lepy 838 2.1 amps that provide surround sound tactile feedback to 5 exciters placed in the inside corners of the main box. SSF lets you "feel" the ball rolling around and "feel" the bumpers pop when the ball hits them as well as the flippers. The PC is nothing special, under-powered if anything. The GPU is the main workhorse. It has a 1050 Ti for the graphics. That could be a little better as well but it works. Due to the low-ish specs of the PC, I'm running PinballY. Pinup Popper is probably the best pinball frontend but it is more designed for high end 4K systems. My PC struggled with it, but runs PinballY just fine. PinballY is a clone of PinballX. For my needs, it just seems to work better than PinballX. This thing is so packed full of stuff, I don't think I could get any thing else in it, LOL. If I were to do anything different, I wouldn't have ordered the custom lockdown bar from VirtuaPin. It was one of the first things I ordered and literally the last thing to arrive - over 2 months, I would buy a real lockdown from ebay and have a local welder customize it for me before I ordered anything from them again. The cab dimensions were all based off of this guy's cab. https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=18420 Here are a few links to some of this stuff if anyone is interested in what any of it is. DOF http://pinball.weilenmann.net/docu/DirectOutputWIP/index.html Pinscape/KL25Z http://mjrnet.org/pinscape/index.html SSF/Surround Sound Feedback https://www.facebook.com/groups/SSFeedback/ Damn son, that's awesome! You really have to be focused and knowledgeable to build one of these. I so wish i had better electronics experience. The whole Pinscape and DOF stuff seems like too much for me to learn. Especially since you really need to know what you are doing when it comes to the different voltages and grounding. I don't want my shoddy electrical work to burn down my house. I think I will keep it easy and keep my computer separate too. I think I may just build the wood pinball table/artwork/monitors/buttons for now. And eventually add the extra electronics at a later period when I feel more comfortable with that process. I was also thinking of just buying one of VituaPin's plunger kit since I dont trust myself to go the Pinscape route.... that is, unless you are building extras and selling your creation ? Any experience with these? ... https://virtuapin.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25&products_id=105 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaunchRoo Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Excellent table (and cabs) Jays2Arcade... i stuck a cheap GTX780 for more headroom for when i install popper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysArcade Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, ItchyRobot said: Any experience with these? ... https://virtuapin.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25&products_id=105 I don't have any personal experience with them but guess what. They also use a KL25Z, just different firmware than Pinscape. I have heard lots of people have issues with them though. Personally, after my experience with the lockdown bar, I will not be buying anything from virtuapin again. If I didn't want to source the KL25Z and linear potentiometer for that stuff, I would buy from Zebs Boards. https://shop.zebsboards.com/Zebsboards_Plunger/V3_Plunger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItchyRobot Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, JaysArcade said: I don't have any personal experience with them but guess what. They also use a KL25Z, just different firmware than Pinscape. I have heard lots of people have issues with them though. Personally, after my experience with the lockdown bar, I will not be buying anything from virtuapin again. If I didn't want to source the KL25Z and linear potentiometer for that stuff, I would buy from Zebs Boards. https://shop.zebsboards.com/Zebsboards_Plunger/V3_Plunger Nice, Zebs looks much better. That EZ Install Kit looks temping too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysArcade Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 Yep. I don't think there is any easier way to go than to use zeb's stuff. Spendy, but it will save you a ton of time and troubleshooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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