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As for your videos and wheel images (Clear Logos), if they're the same name as the table_name.vpx, I'm pretty sure you can just drop those files into the respective Image folders and they'll show up. (in LaunchBox, F5 to refresh images).

Aw heck! (just looked at the video) You do have a pin cab.  Nice!!  DMD and all.  Sweet!

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@ItchyRobot I recall doing something in the registry (quite a while back).  But it was for VPX in general vs. per specific tables.  I think it had to do with direct draw.  Not sure if it helps any, but here's my Video Options setup.vpx.thumb.jpg.8e26049d761ccc2c8b4cad1666122643.jpg

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1 hour ago, JoeViking245 said:

@ItchyRobot I recall doing something in the registry (quite a while back).  But it was for VPX in general vs. per specific tables.  I think it had to do with direct draw.  Not sure if it helps any, but here's my Video Options setup.

That looks about the same settings as what I have. I think I have narrowed it down to being PinVol that is doing it. It's a program that sits in the background and allows for easy per table volume adjustment. After a little trial and error I found a Bigbox setting that seems to have fixed it ... Under Options > Mouse > Disable Mouse Across All Apps 👍

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On 9/10/2019 at 5:15 PM, JoeViking245 said:

No, I don't have a pin cab.  I do have a full size upright arcade cabinet that has buttons on the sides for flippers.  Baby steps. lol

I'm in the same boat. Do you use a second display for backglass on your setup?

I have both VPX and Future Pinball tables setup and running fine from LB. There are some great tables for both and each has it's pros and cons.

After lots of reading on several Pinball sites, the one issue I can't seem to find an answer to is can you use VPX in a dual screen setup, but leave the main playfield screen in landscape mode? I can rotate my display but I would rather not have that set up and seems VPX always rotates the playfield when I try to use a backglass display. (Basically always switches to cabinet mode)

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I've never attempted a 2nd display with VPX (nor FP).  :( 

Does Backglass - Options - X/Y Rotation do anything?

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Sounds like, video card pending, you might be able to automate a display rotation on a given monitor.  https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=34850

But even better, add/modify a pov xml file for the table (backglass).  https://vpinball.com/forums/topic/vpx-backdrop-pov-importexport-tutorial/#post-48590

Now, I don't know if they all come with pov files to modify, or if you can even just add one if it doesn't.   But seems there has to be people who use dual desktop monitors for VPX, both in landscape mode.

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15 hours ago, JoeViking245 said:

I've never attempted a 2nd display with VPX (nor FP).  :( 

Does Backglass - Options - X/Y Rotation do anything?

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Sounds like, video card pending, you might be able to automate a display rotation on a given monitor.  https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=34850

But even better, add/modify a pov xml file for the table (backglass).  https://vpinball.com/forums/topic/vpx-backdrop-pov-importexport-tutorial/#post-48590

Now, I don't know if they all come with pov files to modify, or if you can even just add one if it doesn't.   But seems there has to be people who use dual desktop monitors for VPX, both in landscape mode.

I never intended to use a second monitor, but I was setting up my marquee cut LCD I saw that Future Pinball displayed a full screen backglass & DMD automatically and thought this was pretty cool.

I have messed with all those settings in VPX and haven't found one that works, yet. I have gotten suggestions to use PINUP player with VPX, but that's just another thing to setup and not all tables have media/backglass packs to use with it.

Frankly I'm torn between VPX and Future Pinball. I was always in the VPX camp because the physics where so much better, but newer tables with Future Pinball that use the latest physics, have a dynamic 3D rendering system, media upgrades for the backglass, might make it better for a dedicated cabinet and playability overall.

LOL, I love tinkering, but I want to be done tinkering too and just play. 😁

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PINUP Player is actually pretty cool.  But my little i5 machine needs just a touch more oomph.  lol

Honestly I haven't even looked at FP in about a year.  So I'm probably out of touch by a version or 2.  So until I update it, my allegiance is still with VPX. :)  I also prefer the more nostalgic table look vs the eye candy of FX2 and FX3 (and to an extent, FP).  Just old school that way, I guess.

I know JP has done a lot of upgraded desktop modes for tables over the last 6+ months.  Though it's been a while there since I upgraded tables too.  VPX and pinmame are current, just not so much tables. 😊

Ahhh.... the ol' "I'm done tinkering, I'm goin' to start playing now" thoughts.  Let us know how that goes for you. lol  jk  I need to stop thinking about it and actually start playing more myself.  "Oh!  Wait!  Just one more little tweak here, and then I'll start playing again."  It's a vicious cycle.

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2 hours ago, JoeViking245 said:

PINUP Player is actually pretty cool.  But my little i5 machine needs just a touch more oomph.  lol

I've got a lowly i3 in my cabinet and it's handling the job fine. Always on the look out for a used cheap i7 upgrade though. 🙂

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Honestly I haven't even looked at FP in about a year.  So I'm probably out of touch by a version or 2.  So until I update it, my allegiance is still with VPX. :)  I also prefer the more nostalgic table look vs the eye candy of FX2 and FX3 (and to an extent, FP).  Just old school that way, I guess.

I am the same but I don't mind video/audio upgrades that don't affect the game play. Tested an upgraded VPX Terminator 2 table that added explosions on the playfield and absolutely hated it.

The kids like that scrolling camera view feature, I don't, but with FP it's just a simple keystroke to switch views, no messing with tables parameters, so it's easy to leave them that option in a cabinet set up.

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 I know JP has done a lot of upgraded desktop modes for tables over the last 6+ months.  Though it's been a while there since I upgraded tables too.  VPX and pinmame are current, just not so much tables. 😊

I have a lot of his tables and have been upgrading tonight quite a few of them.

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Ahhh.... the ol' "I'm done tinkering, I'm goin' to start playing now" thoughts.  Let us know how that goes for you. lol  jk  I need to stop thinking about it and actually start playing more myself.  "Oh!  Wait!  Just one more little tweak here, and then I'll start playing again."  It's a vicious cycle.

LOL. When the kids are asking me everyday, is it done yet, I need to stop. 🙂

Once pinball is completely set up, I'm done. (Except for adding some Sinden light guns 😉 ) 

Edit: OMG. Countless hours later... Disable B2S option in Preferences -> Configure Keys, Nudge and DOF. Backglass working with VPX now. Not using a DOF I would have never thought to look there.

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JP just updated a lot of his tables with tweaks and his latest physics, so its a good time to get back in it.

 

How do you guys name your *.vpx tables? Personally, I leave them as the author names them so I can see what version it is ... version is usually part of the name of the file. The only problem with this method is that I continually have to update my rom path in LaunchBox to keep the tables playable. I guess my other option would be to just name my table generically; but then I wouldn't know the version. I guess this conundrum is why Jason doesn't want to officially add Pinball to LaunchBox; the continuous renaming of the tables.

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5 minutes ago, ItchyRobot said:

How do you guys name your *.vpx tables? Personally, I leave them as the author names them so I can see what version it is ... version is usually part of the name of the file. The only problem with this method is that I continually have to update my rom path in LaunchBox to keep the tables playable. I guess my other option would be to just name my table generically; but then I wouldn't know the version. I guess this conundrum is why Jason doesn't want to officially add Pinball to LaunchBox; the continuous renaming of the tables.

Right now I'm making a folder for each table that has a "clean" name. Within that folder I can have several versions of that table, which have the full name with versions etc in the name. 

When I import I select to use the folder name as the rom name and allow duplicates. I generally only keep one for each table, so after testing I delete the others or rename specifically if I decide to keep a variant.

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Ya, naming conventions for Visual Pinball has been a mess since forever.  And it will never go away.  But can't really complain as all these tables are made royalty free by individuals, on their own free time.

I do the same as @Headrush69 using a clean folder name.  However back when, when I 1st imported them I did a drag and drop of all the VPX files.  Since most all the authors/version/revision/what_ever where inside parenthesis, LB left the Names pretty good and the versions etc went into the Version field.  Then when I update tables (again, way over due. lol)  I drop them into the 'proper' folder respectively and manually update were LB is pointing to.  Call it a part of the hobby. lol

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