Megahurtz Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 I hadn't fired up Big Box in a while and just installed two different updates. Following that, I noticed a change in scrolling through games. Previously there was an acceleration to the scrolling, where holding down would progressively speed up the scrolling to the point where it was very smoothly flying through titles until it would stop on one. Now it seems to be a much slower, deliberate scroll where it almost goes by a single title at a time. The time between each title does seem to very slightly decrease as a direction is held, but it is still stopping on every single game, just lingering on it for slightly less time. Did something recently change with the scrolling behavior? Any way to get it back to how it was before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megahurtz Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) Here are a couple short videos displaying what I'm seeing. Manual scrolling: IMG_2752.MOV And a second video of Big Box going into idle mode and auto scrolling to select a new game: IMG_2753.MOV I tried selecting the default theme to see if that made a difference, but there was no change. I also tried changing the game list to various options. Text with details had super fast scrolling that accelerated quickly. The layout for that is identical to what I'm using for vertical wheel 1, with the exception being that it doesn't load the game title images. So it seems that the game clear logos are what is causing the choppy scrolling. v12.13 was the previous version I was using where scrolling was normal. Rolling back to 12.15 still had this choppy scrolling, so it either was introduced in 12.14 or 12.15. I don't have an installer for 12.14 available to test out. For a final point of comparison, here is what my scrolling was like in 12.13: IMG_2754.MOV Edited October 15, 2022 by Megahurtz uploaded videos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuirkyKirkTech Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) I'm definitely seeing slowdown and hitches with scrolling on 12.16. I can't view the videos in question, but I am definitely noticing a performance hit. I thought it was the Microsoft update for October at first.... Edit: In my case it is significantly worse with any game that has a video attached to it. Though scrolling overall definitely seems impacted. Video performance as a whole seems a little off as well, both platform and game. I'm using the latest version of VLC as well. Edited October 16, 2022 by QuirkyKirkTech More information/Clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph1roth Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I am seeing the same thing. Very slow and choppy when scrolling. Especially in attract mode. Before it was very smoothe and fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulture Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archr0y Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Same for me. Just been googling the issue and it led me here. I have just done a media cleanup for MAME and no change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabb3rJaw Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I'm having the same issue. Just doesn't feel smooth at all. I tried caching all the images but that didn't help either. Hopefully this can get fixed as I wouldn't even consider putting this in a cabinet the way it is. I will keep setting things up because overall I do like where its heading but will continue using Hyperspin in the cabinet until the lag is figured out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Beats Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 We are actively looking into the cause of this and it should be corrected in the next beta release. I'll do my best to remember to post here when the release those changes are in comes out so you can opt into the beta and see if it corrects the issues you're seeing. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archr0y Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Thanks very much for the update. Will keep an eye on the next releases 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_G Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Is there a version we can downgrade to that doesn't have this lag issue? It's really bad trying to scroll through my arcade games. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Beats Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 13.0 Beta 1 is out and has had a lot of changes made to the control that renders the wheel, as well as how the wheel is animated. Could you please update to 13.0 beta 1 and let me know if you see any changes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archr0y Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I’ve just installed the beta and can confirm that scrolling looks pretty good to me now. I’ve only had a quick scroll through my bigger platforms and it’s nice and quick/smooth. Very happy, thankyou for the continued updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megahurtz Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 13.0 beta also much improved here. I'd say it's 95% fixed. The scrolling is fast and fluid the way it was with previous versions, however when it idles into attract mode and auto scrolls through games, occasionally there is a slight hitch or two while scrolling through titles. I also had Big Box crash on me with an exception error about a minute into trying out the beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMatterDM Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I'm getting scrolling lag on Arcade/MAME. 1-3 seconds between each game lag. The other systems? They work fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seph1roth Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 11/8/2022 at 5:54 AM, Megahurtz said: 13.0 beta also much improved here. I'd say it's 95% fixed. The scrolling is fast and fluid the way it was with previous versions, however when it idles into attract mode and auto scrolls through games, occasionally there is a slight hitch or two while scrolling through titles. I also had Big Box crash on me with an exception error about a minute into trying out the beta. I would agree with this. I am seeing a large improvement but still getting the occasional hitch while scrolling or attract mode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabb3rJaw Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 This update helped a lot! Like others still has a small jerky lag here and there but WAY better. Thank you to all have worked on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingio Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 On 11/7/2022 at 2:29 PM, C-Beats said: 13.0 Beta 1 is out and has had a lot of changes made to the control that renders the wheel, as well as how the wheel is animated. Could you please update to 13.0 beta 1 and let me know if you see any changes? The wheel has always worked well for me, what I notice a certain slowness is in showing the videos. When you select a game it takes me almost 1 second to play the video. Is there a way to make the video play instantly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supes123 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Hi, I'm having the same issue, even though using the latest big box. I'm using the colofrul them with vertical wheel mode. Painful scrolling lag even though it used to be smooth. Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haradooku Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Hello this is still a persistent issue. All topics are dead and mod/admin posts seem to only cover extremely niche causes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermat Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, haradooku said: Hello this is still a persistent issue. All topics are dead and mod/admin posts seem to only cover extremely niche causes. Are you using a VRR monitor ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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