Rotgut Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) Hi everyone, new here. Thanks for having me. Love this whole community! I have a question if someone can point me in the right direction. LB is asking for the BIOS for Colecovision — I do have some of the BIOS files but not the one it's asking for (for Retroarch)... it's asking me for coleco.rom and I can't seem to find it anywhere online. Anyone know where I can DL it? Thanks in advance. Edited December 8, 2022 by Rotgut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadVoivod Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Pointing out to ROM downloads is not legal, but googling just 3 words I found many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotgut Posted December 8, 2022 Author Share Posted December 8, 2022 But I wasn't asking about ROM downloads, game downloads, just a BIOS file. I didn't think it would be an issue...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Rotgut said: But I wasn't asking about ROM downloads, game downloads, just a BIOS file. I didn't think it would be an issue...? Bios files are copywrited materials just like roms, so yes it is a issue. Please dont ask for pirated content here or you will risk a ban. And as stated in the previous post simply googling colecovision bios will give you plenty of results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgamer Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) On 12/9/2022 at 5:49 AM, neil9000 said: Bios files are copywrited materials just like roms, so yes it is a issue. Please dont ask for pirated content here or you will risk a ban. And as stated in the previous post simply googling colecovision bios will give you plenty of results. Sorry for dumping this topic but that the stupidest rule or bs I ever Heard. okay so let talk about this really let say Cores for retro arch don't need bios even though its a core and yet everyone call its illegal because retro arch share their core for downloads. and yet Luanchbox share and downloads the Retroarch's core and app so there a lot the cores that have the main brain data information for the console and reading system and emulate the console. if you think about it the core act like a bios and its their own bios regardless. I know that sound stupid but that true so if you tell someone go find it or search on ethernet they still doing it and for those that share it to the net is still illegal. Okay well Bios are still shared to the ethernet and that is okay to be shared. because its act like a core the heart to run the emulators, I mean I understand if the guy was asking where to find the roms for the game okay we tell him that but bios can be shared. because is the heart and function for the emulator software and look at it as tools not a game or anything. its same shit with retro arch share their core downloads most core have their bios build in, But really we living in 2022 so bios is a tool software not a game rom and should shared or even better I remember Emulator Zone they shared the bios and also other site so I don't think sharing bios is a freaking issue. I swear people need understand that already also I want to point out as well Many emulator that are made for this years don't really need bios for example Dolphin"GameCube", PPSSPP "Sony PSP", Redream and flycast"Sega Dreamcast" and many other that don't need bios but yet its option. most these Emulators even made there cores for Retroarch for them to run it with it but yet there core acting bios. so if I said hey where to find Sega 32x bios and we all know how easy to find on net, just private message him to the sources. instead saying its ILEGAL... also these console lost and gone special ColecoVision and there company and no one won the rights anymore so yeah share the bios. now if came and ask for firmware well that a bit too mush because most company do share the firmware for example Sony they shared their firmware for the PlayStation 3 and that easy to get it because we have the ps3 emulator but we should not guide him for that because that deferent matter or like he asking where to find the firm ware for cemu"wii-u emulator or yuzu"switch emulator" okay that bit too mush we know that illegal but console from 1980...YEAH!! ILEGAL YOU SAY? come on dude that be extreme don't you think ? Edited December 13, 2022 by oldgamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, oldgamer said: Sorry for dumping this topic but that the stupidest rule or bs I ever Heard. okay so let talk about this really let say Cores for retro arch don't need bios even though its a core and yet everyone call its illegal because retro arch share their core for downloads. and yet Luanchbox share and downloads the Retroarch's core and app so there a lot the cores that have the main brain data information for the console and reading system and emulate the console. if you think about it the core act like a bios and its their own bios regardless. I know that sound stupid but that true so if you tell someone go find it or search on ethernet they still doing it and for those that share it to the net is still illegal. Okay well Bios are still shared to the ethernet and that is okay to be shared. because its act like a core the heart to run the emulators, I mean I understand if the guy was asking where to find the roms for the game okay we tell him that but bios can be shared. because is the heart and function for the emulator software and look at it as tools not a game or anything. its same shit with retro arch share their core downloads most core have their bios build in, But really we living in 2022 so bios is a tool software not a game rom and should shared or even better I remember Emulator Zone they shared the bios and also other site so I don't think sharing bios is a freaking issue. I swear people need understand that already also I want to point out as well Many emulator that are made for this years don't really need bios for example Dolphin"GameCube", PPSSPP "Sony PSP", Redream and flycast"Sega Dreamcast" and many other that don't need bios but yet its option. most these Emulators even made there cores for Retroarch for them to run it with it but yet there core acting bios. so if I said hey where to find Sega 32x bios and we all know how easy to find on net, just private message him to the sources. instead saying its ILEGAL... also these console lost and gone special ColecoVision and there company and no one won the rights anymore so yeah share the bios. now if came and ask for firmware well that a bit too mush because most company do share the firmware for example Sony they shared their firmware for the PlayStation 3 and that easy to get it because we have the ps3 emulator but we should not guide him for that because that deferent matter or like he asking where to find the firm ware for cemu"wii-u emulator or yuzu"switch emulator" okay that bit too mush we know that illegal but console from 1980...YEAH!! ILEGAL YOU SAY? come on dude that be extreme don't you think ? What are you talking about? Bios files are copyrighted, age has nothing to do with it. Can you legally download Citizen Kane or The Wizard Of Oz for free because they are now 80 years old? No of course you cant they are copyrighted films and downloading them without paying is illegal, this is no different at all to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgamer Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, neil9000 said: What are you talking about? Bios files are copyrighted, age has nothing to do with it. Can you legally download Citizen Kane or The Wizard Of Oz for free because they are now 80 years old? No of course you cant they are copyrighted films and downloading them without paying is illegal, this is no different at all to that. I don't want you to get the wrong Idea this sound like a argument but more a discussion and information but "Bios are not illegal because is data compile in bin or rom format" that was taken from the console ram now think about that and yes ages is huge deafferents your talking about Games roms "Games roms yes ilegal" two deferent things. people like you always misunderstanding different you said no bios are illegal but your wrong they not. just nothing more of a data.bin Edited December 13, 2022 by oldgamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro808 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, oldgamer said: I don't want you to get the wrong Idea but i know what and Im talking about Im talking about the bios "Bios are not illegal because is data compile in bin or rom format" that was taken from the console ram now think about that and yes ages is huge deafferents your talking about Games roms "Games roms yes ilegal" two deferent things. people like you always misunderstanding deafferents you said no bios are ilegal but your wrong they not. just nothing more of a data.bin To put it bluntly you are incorrect and I think you need to really learn what a bios file is. A BIOS file can be and for most of the existing major companies is copyrighted material. How old a system is does not matter if the copyright is still active. If you do not believe any of this feel free to see what Nintendo did over the past few years to major rom sites we used to be able to get bios and rom files from. This forum does not provide links to any roms or bios files since they are copyright material. Stop arguing over it. We will not allow links regardless of what someone thinks they know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 hours ago, oldgamer said: Sorry for dumping this topic but that the stupidest rule or bs I ever Heard. okay so let talk about this really let say Cores for retro arch don't need bios even though its a core and yet everyone call its illegal because retro arch share their core for downloads. and yet Luanchbox share and downloads the Retroarch's core and app so there a lot the cores that have the main brain data information for the console and reading system and emulate the console. if you think about it the core act like a bios and its their own bios regardless. I know that sound stupid but that true so if you tell someone go find it or search on ethernet they still doing it and for those that share it to the net is still illegal. None of this makes any sense. 5 hours ago, oldgamer said: Okay well Bios are still shared to the ethernet and that is okay to be shared. because its act like a core the heart to run the emulators Emulators and bios are 2 different things. Emulators are legal when the dev creates all of the code himself without any insider technical specs and information of the hardware being emulated. Bios is the basic core "operating system" of the emulator, it is software and is copyright protected. 5 hours ago, oldgamer said: its same shit with retro arch share their core downloads most core have their bios build in Nope. 5 hours ago, oldgamer said: most core have their bios build in Some cores do have bios built in, the dev of the emulator took extra time and effort to create their own bios from scratch which is legal and is different from downloading a dumped bios. 5 hours ago, oldgamer said: But really we living in 2022 so bios is a tool software not a game rom and should shared or even better I remember Emulator Zone they shared the bios and also other site so I don't think sharing bios is a freaking issue. I swear people need understand that already Just because you think it should be free and just because some rom site had them for download does not make it legal. 5 hours ago, oldgamer said: also I want to point out as well Many emulator that are made for this years don't really need bios for example Dolphin"GameCube", PPSSPP "Sony PSP", Redream and flycast"Sega Dreamcast" and many other that don't need bios but yet its option This is correct except that Flycast is not a core of Redream, they are 2 completely different projects. Dolphin and PPSSPP devs created their own bios. 5 hours ago, oldgamer said: Emulators even made there cores for Retroarch for them to run it with it but yet there core acting bios. Nope. 5 hours ago, oldgamer said: just private message him to the sources. instead saying its ILEGAL No, this is also illegal and we will not jeopardize Jasons business by doing so. 5 hours ago, oldgamer said: now if came and ask for firmware well that a bit too mush because most company do share the firmware for example Sony they shared their firmware for the PlayStation 3 and that easy to get it because we have the ps3 emulator but we should not guide him for that because that deferent matter or like he asking where to find the firm ware for cemu"wii-u emulator or yuzu"switch emulator" okay that bit too mush we know that illegal but console from 1980...YEAH!! ILEGAL YOU SAY? come on dude that be extreme don't you think ? Firmware and bios are essentially the same thing, proprietary software written by the hardware manufacturer and is subject to copyright laws. 1 hour ago, oldgamer said: I don't want you to get the wrong Idea this sound like a argument but more a discussion and information but "Bios are not illegal because is data compile in bin or rom format" that was taken from the console ram now think about that and yes ages is huge deafferents your talking about Games roms "Games roms yes ilegal" two deferent things. people like you always misunderstanding different you said no bios are illegal but your wrong they not. just nothing more of a data.bin This is just so much nope and wrong. Basically what you are saying is "nuh-huh, it's legal cause I think and say it is so what you ares aying is wrong" A quick Google search will show you that bios is illegal just like a rom or any other copyright protected software unless a company has legally released it to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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