Jason Carr

There's a bunch of complications here, including that the existing themes don't easily support it. We have a bunch of themes currently with no text menus built into the wheel views, amongst other things. There are ways to make it happen, but none of them are quick or easy. It's really just the difference between transitioning to another screen or not, and unfortunately at this point in time the amount of work required to add something like that wouldn't really be worth the effort.

Try manually downloading the .NET Framework 4.8 runtime from MS and running it. If it's failing, running it manually will probably tell you what the problem is.

@deesko I just uploaded version 0.22 to the Play Store, and I'm hoping it'll fix that controller focus issue. That said, it's so hard to replicate that I can't be certain. It'll take a bit for Google to approve the update (few hours maybe), and then after the update you can let me know if you see that issue again. Thanks. Probably worth a shot; I would guess that PS4 controllers should work. I am 100% positive that's the issue in your case, especially since you're seeing pointer drifting.

When it wasn't working a bunch of times in a row, were you closing out of the app every time via the app switcher? Do you know if it was showing the loading splash screen on the times that it wasn't working? Or was it just when coming back to the app instantly?

Yeah, no kidding. I think I have it fixed, but the problem is, I've only seen it once in my 45 minutes of playing with it. So now I don't know if it's fixed or not lol.

I think I know what you mean now. I remember seeing that once a while back. I'm not sure why you're seeing it more than I am in my testing, but I do have some ideas and I'll look into it. Thanks for helping me understand.

My guess then at this point is that it's somehow related to the USB drive. Can you try exporting a small collection to the internal storage on the device? I use an external USB hard drive (Western Digital Passport) on mine without issues, but if there's some kind of issue with the USB drive, then that would rule it out. Something is clearly different between our setups though, because that is definitely not normal.

Well that's odd. I have the "NVIDIA SHIELD TV Gaming Edition" which should also be the latest version of the Shield. The listing on Amazon doesn't say Pro: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N1NT9Y6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 So not sure if we have the same one or not, but something is going awry, as my testing and development is done with that device. I know we have quite a few other users who are using various Shield TV devices without issues as well. What are you using for storage? Do you have the exported folder on internal storage or a USB device? What version of Android are you running?

The revamped wall view is pretty far down the list at #18 in the poll items. So I'll definitely get to it (it's in the top 20), but it'll probably be a while.

I'm guessing you mean putting games on the Android TV home screen? I hadn't thought about it honestly, but that makes sense.

I'm hesitant to pick up a GPD XD+, because I'm not sure if it would have the same issues. Do you happen to know if it runs the same version of Android?

Hey all, first off thank you so much for helping with the beta testing. The official release has been very smooth and I definitely owe that to you guys, so thank you very much. I wanted to mention that if you have previously left a review on the Play Store, it has all been private feedback, unfortunately, because Google does not allow beta testers to give public feedback. If you'd like to review the app publicly (and I would be very grateful), you first need to click this link: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.unbrokensoftware.launchbox From there, click the button to opt out, and then you will finally be able to leave a public review here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.unbrokensoftware.launchbox I'm sorry for being so forward about this; I typically wouldn't come out and ask for reviews lol, but Google has complicated this whole process so much that I felt that it was probably a good thing to clear up. Thanks again, everybody. Just put out a desktop beta, and I'm back to Android development for the rest of the afternoon. Edit: Don't worry about uninstalling the beta version of the app and reinstalling the public version, as the site says. There's no need as they are one and the same for the moment.

Hey all, the first 10.2 beta is out now, with details here: Closing this thread. We can continue discussion above.

Hey all, the first 10.2 beta is out now with the #3 most-voted item from the last poll: backup and restore options for data and settings. Here's the change log: New Feature: New options for "Create Data Backup" and "Restore Data Backup" are available under the Tools menu in LaunchBox. These options will backup and restore your LaunchBox and Big Box data, sans for game and media files. Improvement: Automatic data backups now use the new data backup engine, which should make things significantly easier in disaster scenarios, as it's now one file per backup instead of a bunch of random XML files I went ahead and revamped the automatic data backups system as well, since it was confusing for a lot of users due to all the XML files being separate. Automatic data backups now happen on both startup and shutdown of LaunchBox and Big Box, if enabled in the LaunchBox options (should be enabled by default). The new backup system simply creates a 7-zip backup file of the LaunchBox\Data folder, which handles everything sans for game and media files. It should be really convenient now to make a backup and then experiment however you like, with the ability to go back easily if needed. Next up on the list is the #1 feature from the poll: Xbox controller and PS4 controller home button support.

Thank you @alexposad. I have this in for the 10.2-beta-1 release that I just put out.

Thanks @Retro808. All good stuff. It would help to know what version you upgraded from, if possible @Gunnderson. That would help to figure out if it's an issue with the startup/pause screens or not. You can disable those though under Tools > Options > Game Startup and Tools > Options > Game Pause in LaunchBox, and separately in the same locations in Big Box.

Thanks for the follow-up @danpow.

Correct. The easiest way to do it is to just delete the /Android/data/com.unbrokensoftware.launchbox folder. Then it'll be a completely fresh install.

Gotcha. That's not a small job, because it would be a new type of interface element in Big Box (we don't really do that anywhere else). But I'll consider it. Sorry for the trouble. Thankfully, installing the new framework is just a one-time thing. I know there's always going to be one-off issues with installing new versions of the .NET Framework, so I always make sure I have a good reason for upgrading before I do. At this point I'm wondering if we should put a big warning at the top of the app that says "Riva Tuner causes issues". Lol.

Thanks for this. I'll get it available without a hack here soon, but if this works in the mean time, then that's killer.

Just a little FYI, I find it incredibly annoying that we have to use such a deep folder for all the data like that. Originally I was just using a LaunchBox folder in the root. But unfortunately, Android does a terrible job of managing data permissions, and some devices were refusing to allow the app to access files on SD cards unless we put them in the default app data folder.

Gotcha. Glad you're sorted. Yes, the exact path there to the LaunchBox folder is important, which is why the exporter creates those folders for you inside the folder you choose to place the package in.

I do most of my development/testing on Android TV, so I would argue that the current version is optimized for Android TV. There's no reason that a separate version needs to be made in order for it to be optimized for Android TV; that's a misnomer.

Okay, I'm lost then currently. I'll take a look though to see if I can replicate it.

Ha, well thanks. That's interesting though. Are you using any file sync utilities like Dropbox or Google Drive?