iamsiincere Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I have the option of either using a Radeon HD 5570 or a Quadro K2200. I'm more educated in using a Radeon HD series AMD card and the benefits of using s 5000 series for retro gaming but certain specs in the Quadro seem better but I know the Quadros are usually better suited for computing or CAD like software. Any Thoughts or Opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 I honestly no very little about the AMD cards, however most emulation relies on the CPU speed mostly especially the earlier systems. Some of the later systems may use a combination of the two but I believe will still be heavily slanted to the CPU side of things. I don't believe having more CPU compute on a graphics card will have any benefit at all, but as I said I'm not that familiar with AMD products. Maybe our resident AMD mod could chime in on this @Lordmonkus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsiincere Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, neil9000 said: I honestly no very little about the AMD cards, however most emulation relies on the CPU speed mostly especially the earlier systems. Some of the later systems may use a combination of the two but I believe will still be heavily slanted to the CPU side of things. I don't believe having more CPU compute on a graphics card will have any benefit at all, but as I said I'm not that familiar with AMD products. Maybe our resident AMD mod could chime in on this @Lordmonkus? I should've been a little more detailed. Using the emulator alone isnt an issue (unless you're paying a newer arcade game like Garou) but when using Big Box as a front-end. Newer MAME games from the PlayStation era and later require more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, iamsiincere said: I should've been a little more detailed. Using the emulator alone isnt an issue (unless you're paying a newer arcade game like Garou) but when using Big Box as a front-end. Newer MAME games from the PlayStation era and later require more power. To a certain extent yes, what CPU are you currently running? Most MAME and PS1 game use CPU only, and a GPU is only used for buffs like upscaling and shaders. Bigbox itself likes a GPU, although it is in no way essential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsiincere Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, neil9000 said: To a certain extent yes, what CPU are you currently running? Most MAME and PS1 game use CPU only, and a GPU is only used for buffs like upscaling and shaders. Bigbox itself likes a GPU, although it is in no way essential. I'm working on more then one machine. Ones a dual core Intel and the other is. Xeon Cpu. I only noticed the slowdown on the dual core machine. Whenever its scrolling through big box. Its using the IGP and has 4GB of ram. I ordered a low profile gpu for that one but figured I'd ask around when I start working on the Xeon machine (re-salvaged HP Z200). That's the one that will either have the 5570 or K2200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, iamsiincere said: I'm working on more then one machine. Ones a dual core Intel and the other is. Xeon Cpu. I only noticed the slowdown on the dual core machine. Whenever its scrolling through big box. Its using the IGP and has 4GB of ram. I ordered a low profile gpu for that one but figured I'd ask around when I start working on the Xeon machine (re-salvaged HP Z200). That's the one that will either have the 5570 or K2200. Yeah I would say the dual core is the issue there, I'm assuming its a low clocked/older CPU? And as I said Bigbox will run on most things but it does like to have a dedicated GPU in order to use all the bells and whistles, as I said not essential but a IGP is sharing bandwidth across CPU and IGP, with 4GB of ram which is pretty low these days. You could try upping the ram the IGP can use in the bios and test though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 And just for reference I have a old dual core Celeron nuc with 4gb of ram and integrated GPU that is set to use the max ram in that. It has to also run windows of course, and I don't use it for bigbox at all. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 If you already have both of these cards use the Quadro. I wasn't familiar with either card but after a quick Google search it seems that one has 4 gigs of GDD5 vram while the Radeon card has 1 gig of GDDR3 vram. The amount of ram isn't a big deal but the type is. In my HTPC I have an older Radeon 7800 series card with 1 gig GDDR5 vram and it works great for emulation with shaders and BigBox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylkman Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Nvidia seems to be a better option in my opinion. However I always lean away from Amd. I'e had more failures in the 15 yrs of building pcs with Amd cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I have never had hardware issues with AMD cards, my biggest personal gripe has always been their drivers. Sometimes they work fine and other times they suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mylkman Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 That also could be the issue. When a customer calls me with an issue, if they tell me the video card failed and don't bring me the PC back then I can't test it. It very well maybe a uneducated customer that gives up on it. I just never would recommend d a Amd card. For the most part I install nvidia. They are having issues with 4k for games but they are working on getting it done by updates etc but still have their issues just like Intel is having issues. I don't know about amd and their issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper71129 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 just fyi.. i have a refurbished hp z220 sff.. and i put a low profile 1050ti in it... no power connection to card needed... works great for up to 1080p.. no problems with my setup yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper71129 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2947&cmp[]=519&cmp[]=3595 just for comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper71129 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2947&cmp[]=3595&cmp[]=80 sorry.. that was the mobile 5570.. fixed it to desktop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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