reaper71129 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 So i was finished.. i but in all of my favorite consoles... then i checked out the forum... read about the Exodos and Windos collections.... so i was like ok.. easy to add... then i starting thinking about amiga... then commodore 64... then vic 20.... darn it... i'm not finished yet.... this is so so addictive... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 lol down the rabbit hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charco Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 It will never end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper71129 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 Yea, i'm beginning to learn that.... and darn it again.. i need another hard drive... lol ... running outta space... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Either you will become a total addict and become one of the "must have everything" people or you will get sick of that and become one of the "bah, I got enough and i'm done" people. I'm part of the "I got enough" people, I don't need every system and every game, I have over 11,000 games and that's more than enough games to keep me going til i'm dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper71129 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 wait... so 11,000 is your have enough limit... lol..... i'm up to about 15,000 games and about 18tb of data.. i thought i was done... ok... i'm done with consoles.... now working on computers.... i think..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Actually my "enough limit" was lower, i'm just too lazy now to bother to go in and remove a whole pile of garbage games and systems I only have for troubleshooting reasons for people on the forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper71129 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 oh... that's cool... so you sacrifice for us... i figured you would have multiple installs setting around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Oh I do have a 2nd install as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper71129 Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 well, i'm thankful for yall moderators and yall's knowledge.... my first computer was a vic-20 so i'm not to bad on the computer side.. but trying to find info on the emulators is frustrating sometimes... and yall compile it here... i noticed if you google regular emulator knowledge that these forums come up pretty close to the top of the results... there is alot of years of experience here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper71129 Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 ok... now i have x68000, amiga, atari st, commodore 64, vic-20, apple 2, apple 2gs and zx spectrum... and up to about 20,000 games... and waiting on a hard drive i ordered so that i can setup exodos and winexo.... man i love this stuff... haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumpalot Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 16/03/2018 at 6:07 PM, Lordmonkus said: Either you will become a total addict and become one of the "must have everything" people or you will get sick of that and become one of the "bah, I got enough and i'm done" people. I'm part of the "I got enough" people, I don't need every system and every game, I have over 11,000 games and that's more than enough games to keep me going til i'm dead. I completely agree. I am nowhere near finished importing the systems/games I'd like and already I have plenty to be getting on with for a very long time. I'm focusing more on the multiplayer classics like Mario Kart and Street Fighter so others can get involved when they come round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper71129 Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 NES, SNES, GENESIS, N64 were my first ones to setup... then i went from there...and keep going.. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z3R0B4NG Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Speaking off rabbit holes. I wanted to play some F-Zero... a month later i'm at >5000 games in LaunchBox i suddenly have weird plastic critters multiplying on my Desktop (yes that's a GameBoy mug!) making Excel sheets again (what Emulator does what system and links to stuff etc, just to keep track of what i can set which emulator to emulate within launchbox) ... and i keep adding pictures and stuff to the LaunchBox DB for hours and hours... the worst part about it all was to get my head wrapped around it that Emulators need BIOS files that you need to find SOMEWHERE ELSE... took me a good week just fiddling with that stuff a little every day until i finally had it all working. i was really kinda proud once that giant list of BIOS files in BizHawk was complete. and i should really buy some more HDDs, i REALLY need to dump a ton of stuff on my unRAID server so that its at least protected by the parity disk, if this HDD dies a month of my life would just go POOF... and thats just the Emulation stuff. probably four 6 or 8TB WD Reds, still arguing with my wallet about that one. But then i should be good for a few years to come. This Excel spreadsheet which emulator to use for what System, just to keep track of what i can even use for what System in LaunchBox, i make a note of everything i see anyone mention anywhere... half that stuff is like doing archological digs on long abandoned software projects... that still may have some value or are complete trash. My logic is, no one emulator can emulate everything on a System, so if a ROM doesn't start i can just rightclick in LaunchBox and try all the other ones that are known to emulate this system and see what happens. So i'm not only collecting Roms, i'm also collecting Emulators! I need like a 3rd dimension in Excel so i can add a Z axis add all the Games of every Platform and color code what game works and what doesn't... My brain is constantly exploding with ideas what information i would need, how to implement that into the Launchbox Database, then crowdsource that information and automate it back into the frontend. Like, why is Launchbox detecting games only via name, there are lists all over the place with full romsets and their SHA1 or CRC checksums, use that instead of just names to improve detection. Then on base of that checksum you could start a compatibility list for all known Emulators (not only game, but ROM specific for maximum accuracy!) and even the used version number of the Emulator by doing a CRC check on the emulator .exe that LaunchBox starts and then asking the user "how well did this rom work? perfect/OK/badly/crash" and having a compatibility feedback button ... then color code or suggest emulators in the rightclick menu on a per rom basis that work... heck on rom import the emulator field could be populated based on this data, this could go so many levels deeper in so many directions if we crowdsource the shiznit out of all of this. I really see the long term value of Launchbox in its Database, not so much in the Frontend looking pretty (that gets you through the door, but you stay for the convenience of it automatically scraping all the pictures and managing those roms). We could even provide valuable feedback to the people making the emulators that way if just enough people participate in providing feedback and adding to the DB with their own experiences. Most of those compatibility lists on the Emulators own websites are incomplete and outdated because nobody contributes (that could be a starting point though, copy that list somehow and you already got an indication of what is possible with many emulators). The deeper i go the more ideas like this pop into my head... too bad the only thing i'm half decent with is Excel and Googlesheets ;P I guess the point here is, the more data you dump into a Database the more data you can cross reference and extrapolate and come up with different use cases for it and once you can make some use of it in the frontend itself, in counterturn seeds interest in the userbase to add more data to it by simply using it. Then all you need to do is wait and let it take its course. ...just like with the metadata and pictures we are collecting now, i see myself constantly seeing, oh cover missing for this, lets google it and add it to the DB etc. ...seriously, i just wanted to play some F-Zero!!! ...maybe some Turtles in Time... but i'm currently planing to draw the line at NES/Master System, at least for now, anything earlier than that is just not going to be worth it for me, not a fan of giant pixels and beepy sounds. The 8bit visuals of the consoles and the midi like music has a certain artistic value and nostalgia that i can appreciate, but if its literally just giant Pixels and i have to imagine what is even going on... that is when i start to question my life choices ;P I might one day go for C64 because i had one waaay back that my Dad dumped on me next to the SNES and i might maybe by some freak accident find some of those again... but the plan is to go forward and emulate more modern stuff and see how far i can push it. I stumbled over Citra and the 3DS and that is when the filesizes are already becoming bigger where i really need to pay attention to not have the same game twice in the folder and where i start sorting out the absolute trash... and since the OpenGL update 3DS emulation got soo much faster i went neck deep into it and that was my last week. So with bigger roms and my slow internet it takes of course longer to get the numbers up. I also threw out all JAP roms, i don't speak that language, i don't even like Anime so whats the point. I know there are some fan translated roms but i decided to strictly go with retail releases and ignore all the other noise like Betas and Prototypes and unlicensed games... and i'm constantly struggling with myself if i should go for completion and then just set favorites in launchbox or if i should throw out some things i just REALLY don't care about, like basically all the Sports games, how many versions of GOLF do i need? Why does the 3DS have so many versions of Mahjong!? And all the obvious girls games about Ponies and Cats and Dogs ... What really bothers the hell out of me though is ... updates, DLC and online only games. How do you even... god i hope those people did set the filenames properly... and the Wii with its motion controllers, how would you even go about emulating that input on PC? ...i know i will never play even 10% of all these games. But i'll make damn sure i'll play ALL of the Ninja Turtles games that i never even knew existed! ok, its late i'm rambling... but yeah... down the rabbit hole and no end in sight. ...and its 6 in the morning AGAIN... why does this keep happening!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumpalot Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Z3R0B4NG said: Are those 8bitdo SNES controllers? If so how do you find them? Cheers Chumpalot. Edited March 22, 2018 by Chumpalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scriven Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Z3R0B4NG said: and the Wii with its motion controllers, how would you even go about emulating that input on PC? As far as I know you can connect a Wiimote directly with a PC using bluetooth. So you're good to go. Furthermore, you can use two small candles, i.e. tealights, to fake a sensor bar. *romantic wii-gaming engaged* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper71129 Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Wow... and I thought I was OCD... lol... alot of great information tho.... and I use the dolphin bar by mayflash for my Wii controller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z3R0B4NG Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Chumpalot said: Are those 8bitdo SNES controllers? If so how do you find them? Cheers Chumpalot. yepp, love them. i think i would like the NES controller more if it was authentic, 2 instead of 4 buttons and no shoulder pads, so they feel as shitty and blocky as the original but i take the wireless over 100% accuracy any day, The SNES pad is near perfect, but i've seen some of the super nerds mod the D-Pad, replace it with the original SNES controller one, or put tape on the pcb so that it is less responsive, i don't really have any problems with that, but i may try that eventually. I never had a N64 so don't ask me how good that controller is, its wireless i bought it more as a joke and because it seems to become a rarity fast because they are not producing them anymore, even the SNES and NES controllers with the original optics have vanished from the 8bitdo webiste, so grab them while you can. I can only guess they got scared of Nintendo. And don't forget about updating the firmware from their website. The SNES pad with the analog sticks is just freaky good, it even has rumble, the only thing really missing is analog shoulder triggers but it at least has 2 buttons, so PS1 wouldn't be a problem... modern racing games are its only weakpoint. But for the purists i should note that the D-Pad and Facebuttons are moved up a bit on the pad compared to the original design to make room for the thumbsticks, but it feels like it always meant to be this way, it just looks a little weird. ... and thanks to bluetooth and firmware updates all the pads are compatible with a ton of systems, PC, Mac, Android, Switch... etc. make sure to look into the manual online to know exactly. They have receivers for the NES and SNES mini if you got one of those. Only the N64 pad is a bit older and doesn't support as many systems. ...and when Retro-bit finally releases the licensed SEGA Genesis/Saturn/Dreamcast pads they showed off at CES 2018... instant buy! They even have the SEGA logo on them. I know retrobit quality has been a bit hit and miss historically, but when they are licensed by SEGA i bet they put their A-Game forward for those Products and won't have mushy D-Pads. 1 hour ago, Scriven said: As far as I know you can connect a Wiimote directly with a PC using bluetooth. So you're good to go. Furthermore, you can use two small candles, i.e. tealights, to fake a sensor bar. *romantic wii-gaming engaged* Didn't know that those were bluetooth, that's easy then (at least as long as they sell them, 10 years from now, not so much). But i'm wondering, i got an Oculus Rift, could maybe the Touch Controllers and the Sensors do the same job in some Wii Emulator? I'm just thinking 10, 20, 30 years down the line the original hardware won't be around so alternate input methods should be supported, the VR headsets are pretty mainstream already and basically do that same job as far as motion controls go. It might need some hacky driver stuff but that should be possible at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumpalot Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Z3R0B4NG said: -snip- Thank you for this. I have just ordered a SF30Pro from Amazon. It's getting delivered tomorrow. I don't yet have a bluetooth receiver, which one do you use? I'll be using this (plus another one if I get on with it) along with an Xbox 360 wireless pad which has been great. It's only letdown is the d-pad which has prompted the purchase of the SF30 I guess. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumpalot Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Actually I have just discovered that my motherboard, a Z97 MSI Gaming ACK supports Bluetooth 4.1 so I'm hoping it works out of the box. If you could let me know what Bluetooth adapter you're using all the same that would be great though. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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