Launchbox 13.17 - High CPU Usage, Slow Boot Times, and Sluggish Speeds

[Wally]

Here is a video of my Task Manager while loading Launchbox.

The CPU is used by different Launchbox processes for at least 1.5 minute after Launchbox has loaded!

I am a registered user.

Please help me get into the bottom of this because this thing is now unusable.

Log is attached.

This is the second attempt to load it so that no chance of things being updated exists.

I have another thread waiting reply which may be related (?)

 

Debug 2024-10-27 09-01-41 AM.log

[Buccaneer]

Try to deactivate the Auto-Import feature and remove any third-party plugins.

[Retrogamer4423]

Hello my friends. As we all know, updates and new features are constantly being released for launchbox. However, as far as I can see, launchbox and bigbox have started to slow down a lot in both opening speeds and system-game navigation. Each new feature comes up with even slower boot and navigation times. For example, while the old launchbox versions opened in 3 seconds, the new versions can take up to 1 minute. For this reason, I am looking for ways to speed up the system. I will need a lot of support such as faster menu transitions, faster video playback and boot speeds, faster startup of the game or emulator. If anyone has tried all these improvements and speedups and got results, can you write us these settings here?

[Wally]

Thanx.

Auto Import is disabled. 

[Sbaby]

In another thread I already described some problems I experience with LaunchBox, but I take the opportunity of this discussion to share a difficulty with BigBox in the latest versions. Initially, BigBox works perfectly and the framerate is smooth, but after starting one or two games and going back to the frontend, I notice that it is as if it loses a lot of fluidity: the framerate seems to drop, going from 60fps to about 20fps. It is not that BigBox becomes slower overall, but the viewing experience is less pleasant, and while it does not prevent use, it is still an annoying aspect.

[Retro808]

Merging similar threads into one and updated this thread's title. @Wally I did keep your other linked post separate for now since you are reporting some errors in logs versus just performance concerns. 

Please keep in mind our dev team responded to similar concerns in a beta thread and coming soon will start a dedicated post in order to better address this areas. Please see Faeran's last post in this link. 

 

[eonder87]

Thanks for merging.

I tried freshly installed Launchbox boot speeds. And I see old versions are much faster than today.

12.12 - 3 second
13.2 - 4 second
13.6 - 5 second
13.7 -17 seconds
13.17 19 seconds

My system is a Ryzen 7 5700x Cpu, RX580 Gpu, 16Gb DDR4 RAM All Launchbox are installed on m.2 drive, and all are fresh installed, and empty without any additions. I'm still using 13.2 because it's faster than ever. And I can't use my translated language because I don't want to use a slower version. If I add 160 platforms and thousands of games, It will more than be slower. I presume. if anybody is there with the full set and the latest version please tell me the boot time.

[eonder87]

34 minutes ago, Retro808 said:

Merging similar threads into one and updated this thread's title. @Wally I did keep your other linked post separate for now since you are reporting some errors in logs versus just performance concerns. 

Please keep in mind our dev team responded to similar concerns in a beta thread and coming soon will start a dedicated post in order to better address this areas. Please see Faeran's last post in this link. 

 

Of course, we will wait for the @faeran's post. But we want to start before that. We are a small community and we will help each other. Nothing more. We know the dev team is small but bigger for us.

[Retro808]

8 minutes ago, eonder87 said:

Of course, we will wait for the @faeran's post. But we want to start before that. We are a small community and we will help each other. Nothing more. We know the dev team is small but bigger for us.

By all means please keep providing relevant data. Was just ensuring users know about what Faeran said as there are a bunch of members who do not use betas and tend not to read the beta thread. 

[eonder87]

25 minutes ago, Retro808 said:

By all means please keep providing relevant data. Was just ensuring users know about what Faeran said as there are a bunch of members who do not use betas and tend not to read the beta thread. 

Of course, we will provide relevant data and don't lead to misinformation. Talking about this subject on Beta posts it was a bad decision for my thinking. Beta posts are only for beta errors. If more users will be share her condition that's make a better starting point for that problem. Maybe some users don't want to be changed but it's truly slower than older. 
Thanks for your reply.

[Buccaneer]

13.17 with 20.000 roms: 22 sec startup time on i7 gaming notebook with fast m2 SSD  and 64GB RAM and cache on a RAM Disk.

I would say from the hardware perspective you cannot get more performance out of Launchbox.

 

[Retrogamer4423]

On 28.10.2024 at 00:25, eonder87 said:

Birleştirme için teşekkürler.

Yeni kurulan Launchbox önyükleme hızlarını denedim. Ve eski sürümlerin bugünden çok daha hızlı olduğunu görüyorum.

12.12 - 3 saniye
13.2 - 4 saniye
13.6 - 5 saniye
13.7 -17 saniye
13.17 19 saniye Sistemim Ryzen 7 5700x İşlemci, RX580 GPU, 16Gb DDR4 RAM Tüm Launchbox'lar m.2 sürücüsüne kurulu ve hepsi yeni kurulmuş ve herhangi bir ekleme yapılmamış, boş. Hala 13.2 kullanıyorum çünkü her zamankinden daha hızlı. Ve daha yavaş bir sürüm kullanmak istemediğim için çevrilmiş dilimi kullanamıyorum. 160 platform ve binlerce oyun eklersem, çok daha yavaş olacak. Sanırım. Eğer tam set ve en son sürüme sahip olan varsa lütfen bana önyükleme süresini söylesin.
 

12.12 - 3 second
13.2 - 4 second
13.6 - 5 second
13.7 -17 seconds
13.17 19 seconds

 

18.8  - 2 hours 5 minutes

[Wally]

Any hint on where could I investigate? Logs and video do exist in the first post.

[Wally]

What is the best way to get an answer from the dev team to this? 

[zugswang]

On 10/27/2024 at 9:25 PM, eonder87 said:

Thanks for merging.

I tried freshly installed Launchbox boot speeds. And I see old versions are much faster than today.

12.12 - 3 second
13.2 - 4 second
13.6 - 5 second
13.7 -17 seconds
13.17 19 seconds

My system is a Ryzen 7 5700x Cpu, RX580 Gpu, 16Gb DDR4 RAM All Launchbox are installed on m.2 drive, and all are fresh installed, and empty without any additions. I'm still using 13.2 because it's faster than ever. And I can't use my translated language because I don't want to use a slower version. If I add 160 platforms and thousands of games, It will more than be slower. I presume. if anybody is there with the full set and the latest version please tell me the boot time.

Launchbox boots up fast when you install it and everything is great ....

It's a pity that once you start adding systems to it, it gets soooooo slow it borders on being unusable (no matter what you turn on/off etc)

For something that looks so great, it really is poor overall in comparison to other Frontends where loading speeds and general usage are concerned.

Put just the Arcade system in LB for example and it's perfec, quick searching, navigation, boot, closing etc .... but if you put 50+ system on it then forget about fast anything.

No disrespect intended here, but maybe the creator needs to pass the code to someone else to have a look at and see if there is a way to get it all running faster generally, be it booting up, closing down etc ?

The only other option is starting from scratch and fixing it.

Edited 13 hours ago by zugswang

[Kefka2b]

As far as I am concerned it is performing very well, I also have a quite decent system nvme ssds only, i7 13700k, RTX 3070ti and 64gb ddr5 ram.

However, since either upgrading windows 11 to 24h2 from 23h2, or to LaunchBox 13.17 (can't remember when it started), each time I start LaunchBox it hangs for about 20 seconds once it's opened.

Edited 11 hours ago by Kefka2b

[eonder87]

1 hour ago, Kefka2b said:

As far as I am concerned it is performing very well, I also have a quite decent system nvme ssds only, i7 13700k, RTX 3070ti and 64gb ddr5 ram.

However, since either upgrading windows 11 to 24h2 from 23h2, or to LaunchBox 13.17 (can't remember when it started), each time I start LaunchBox it hangs for about 20 seconds once it's opened.

But many users don't have a system like yours. Many players used a second low-end system for retro gaming.

[Kefka2b]

9 minutes ago, eonder87 said:

But many users don't have a system like yours. Many players used a second low-end system for retro gaming.

Yeah was just adding extra background regarding the start-up lag I am having.

[Wally]

I have upgraded to i5 9600K to verify that CPU is not the issue.

No difference. Slow boot and once loaded, CPU works for around 2 minutes while the data are already in RAM

I am on dead end.

[Jayinem]

1 hour ago, Wally said:

I have upgraded to i5 9600K to verify that CPU is not the issue.

No difference. Slow boot and once loaded, CPU works for around 2 minutes while the data are already in RAM

I am on dead end.

Does your computer have both a dedicated GPU like Intel and a second one like Nvidia?

Edited 8 hours ago by Jayinem