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Actually, never mind, I'll just extract all the games & change the extensions in the platform xml files, that'll solve my problem as i can just use content directory overrides. It's definitely worth keeping them zipped on my main computer (saves ~1TB, it's a massive collection), but kinda pointless on Android, since I'll have far less games and extracting takes much longer. Sorry for bothering you about it.
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I'm not trying to change which cores are used, it's Retroarch's configuration files/overrides. I'd like to load a different configuration file for each Launchbox platform. It looks like i can do this with the command line parameters. From that page: To override this, use retroarch --config customconfig.cfg. If you have some special options you want to store in separate config files, you can use retroarch --config baseconfig.cfg --appendconfig specialconfig.cfg One of the cores that can't load zipped files is swanstation. There were a couple others i had trouble with, but i don't remember them off the top of my head.
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Does the android version support custom command line parameters when launching games? I wanted to try using them to load a different retroarch config override for each platform. I'd prefer to keep most of my roms zipped, and some of the cores don't seem to work if the game is compressed. Launchbox's unzipping works good, but it puts the game in a temporary folder, so content directory overrides don't work. Core overrides don't always work either, since some platforms share cores (genesis plus gx, horizontal/vertical arcade, dolphin). I'd really rather not use game overrides either, as i don't want to deal with having to update a hundred files if i want to change a setting lol.
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Nintendo Game Boy Advance - Animated Cell Phone Overlay for Retroarch View File This is an animated controller overlay I created, intended for use with my cell phone. It's heavily based on the Nintendo GBA, and the buttons are animated when you touch them. The four buttons at the top are Exit (double press), fast forward, save state, and load state, while the bottom one opens the Retroarch menu. It's inspired by the overlays created by Press Start Button and fercho. Feel free to use or modify them however you wish! I included the GIMP project file I used. The overlay is designed for a phone resolution of 2400x1080. You can stretch it a bit in Retroarch, although it will have some distortion. Adjust the screen size under Settings/Video/Scaling/Custom Aspect Ratio, and the overlay under Quick Menu/On-Screen Overlay/Overlay Scale, Overlay Aspect Adjustment, & Overlay Offset. There is an alternate version included, with a different logo. It's a "Wide Boi Advance" because... it's a slightly wider GBA. [cue laugh track] Submitter Zkyo Submitted 08/08/2023 Category Platform Bezels/Overlays
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Version 1.0.0
118 downloads
This is an animated controller overlay I created, intended for use with my cell phone. It's heavily based on the Nintendo GBA, and the buttons are animated when you touch them. The four buttons at the top are Exit (double press), fast forward, save state, and load state, while the bottom one opens the Retroarch menu. It's inspired by the overlays created by Press Start Button and fercho. Feel free to use or modify them however you wish! I included the GIMP project file I used. The overlay is designed for a phone resolution of 2400x1080. You can stretch it a bit in Retroarch, although it will have some distortion. Adjust the screen size under Settings/Video/Scaling/Custom Aspect Ratio, and the overlay under Quick Menu/On-Screen Overlay/Overlay Scale, Overlay Aspect Adjustment, & Overlay Offset. There is an alternate version included, with a different logo. It's a "Wide Boi Advance" because... it's a slightly wider GBA. [cue laugh track] -
Sega Game Gear - Animated Cell Phone Overlay for Retroarch View File This is an animated controller overlay I created, intended for use with my cell phone. It's heavily based on the Sega Game Gear, and the buttons are animated when you touch them. The four buttons at the top are Exit (double press), fast forward, save state, and load state, while the bottom one opens the Retroarch menu. It's inspired by the overlays created by Press Start Button and fercho. Feel free to use or modify them however you wish! I included the GIMP project file I used. The overlay is designed for a phone resolution of 2400x1080. You can stretch it a bit in Retroarch, although it will have some distortion. Adjust the screen size under Settings/Video/Scaling/Custom Aspect Ratio, and the overlay under Quick Menu/On-Screen Overlay/Overlay Scale, Overlay Aspect Adjustment, & Overlay Offset. Submitter Zkyo Submitted 08/02/2023 Category Platform Bezels/Overlays
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Version 1.0.0
132 downloads
This is an animated controller overlay I created, intended for use with my cell phone. It's heavily based on the Sega Game Gear, and the buttons are animated when you touch them. The four buttons at the top are Exit (double press), fast forward, save state, and load state, while the bottom one opens the Retroarch menu. It's inspired by the overlays created by Press Start Button and fercho. Feel free to use or modify them however you wish! I included the GIMP project file I used. The overlay is designed for a phone resolution of 2400x1080. You can stretch it a bit in Retroarch, although it will have some distortion. Adjust the screen size under Settings/Video/Scaling/Custom Aspect Ratio, and the overlay under Quick Menu/On-Screen Overlay/Overlay Scale, Overlay Aspect Adjustment, & Overlay Offset. -
Animated Retroarch Overlays for Cell Phone View File NOTE: NES and SNES overlays are removed, hopefully temporarily. I'm awaiting a response from fercho. Here's some animated overlays that I modified to fit my cell phone screen. I plan to make more overlays for other platforms too, and will update this post as I finish them. Video Demonstration of the NES, SNES, GB, and GBC overlays Modifications I made to the overlays: - Resized game window to run at an integer scaled resolution as large as possible, to avoid issues with shaders - Made buttons much larger, because I'm very uncomfortable using touch controls and have big thumbs. - Recreated overlay using this retropad editor to fit my phone screen, which has an odd resolution (2400x1080) - Added buttons to control Retroarch: Exit (double tap), Fast Forward, Open RA Menu, Load State, and Save State Full credit to these people for making the awesome original overlays! NES: Fercho's NES Overlay SNES: Fercho's SNES Overlay (Also maybe MrRetroLust and OrionsAngel, I may have used part of their overlays, I don't remember) GB: Press Start Button's Gameboy Overlay GBC: Press Start Button's Gameboy Color Overlay Side note: Yes, I know some of the buttons don't overlap quite right, and I don't really care. I find it very tedious to align properly, and it's close enough for me. Besides, your phone screen is small enough that it won't be as noticeable, and your thumbs cover most of the button anyway. Submitter Zkyo Submitted 07/16/2023 Category Platform Bezels/Overlays
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Version 1.0.1
139 downloads
NOTE: NES and SNES overlays are removed, hopefully temporarily. I'm awaiting a response from fercho. Here's some animated overlays that I modified to fit my cell phone screen. I plan to make more overlays for other platforms too, and will update this post as I finish them. Video Demonstration of the NES, SNES, GB, and GBC overlays Modifications I made to the overlays: - Resized game window to run at an integer scaled resolution as large as possible, to avoid issues with shaders - Made buttons much larger, because I'm very uncomfortable using touch controls and have big thumbs. - Recreated overlay using this retropad editor to fit my phone screen, which has an odd resolution (2400x1080) - Added buttons to control Retroarch: Exit (double tap), Fast Forward, Open RA Menu, Load State, and Save State Full credit to these people for making the awesome original overlays! NES: Fercho's NES Overlay SNES: Fercho's SNES Overlay (Also maybe MrRetroLust and OrionsAngel, I may have used part of their overlays, I don't remember) GB: Press Start Button's Gameboy Overlay GBC: Press Start Button's Gameboy Color Overlay Side note: Yes, I know some of the buttons don't overlap quite right, and I don't really care. I find it very tedious to align properly, and it's close enough for me. Besides, your phone screen is small enough that it won't be as noticeable, and your thumbs cover most of the button anyway. -
Animated Retroarch Overlays for Cell Phone View File Here's some animated overlays that I modified to fit my cell phone screen. I plan to make more overlays for other platforms too, and will update this post as I finish them. Video Demonstration of the NES, SNES, GB, and GBC overlays Modifications I made to the overlays: - Resized game window to run at a native resolution as large as possible, to avoid issues with shaders - Made buttons much larger, because I'm very uncomfortable using touch controls and have big thumbs. - Recreated overlay using this retropad editor to fit my phone screen, which has an odd resolution (2400x1080) - Added buttons to control Retroarch: Exit (double tap), Fast Forward, Open RA Menu, Load State, and Save State Full credit to these people for making the awesome original overlays! NES: Fercho's NES Overlay SNES: Fercho's SNES Overlay (Also maybe MrRetroLust and OrionsAngel, I may have used part of their overlays, I don't remember) GB: Press Start Button's Gameboy Overlay GBC: Press Start Button's Gameboy Color Overlay Side note: Yes, I know some of the buttons don't overlap quite right, and I don't really care. I find it very tedious to align properly, and it's close enough for me. Besides, your phone screen is small enough that it won't be as noticeable, and your thumbs cover most of the button anyway. Submitter Zkyo Submitted 07/10/2023 Category Platform Bezels/Overlays
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Version 1.0.0
20 downloads
I made these banner images to remind myself how I had set up my controller binds. Feel free to use or modify them however you want, I included the GIMP project files. I designed them for the Stadia controller, but you could just change the button logos, and it'll resemble most modern controllers. In my Launchbox setup, I'm using these as banners, and have them displayed on the pause screen. Full credit goes to AsparagusTrevor for making the outlined controller images! --------------------- Consoles: Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, Nintendo 64, Playstation 1, Nintendo Gamecube, Playstation 2 Handhelds: Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance Individual Arcade Games: Aliens, Assault, Centipede, Defender, Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr, Donkey Kong 3, Frogger, Galaga, Joust, Mario Bros, Mortal Hombat, Pacman, Qbert, Stree Fighter II, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Xevious -
Button Layouts for Google Stadia Controller View File I made these banner images to remind myself how I had set up my controller binds. Feel free to use or modify them however you want, I included the GIMP project files. I designed them for the Stadia controller, but you could just change the button logos, and it'll resemble most modern controllers. Full credit goes to AsparagusTrevor for making the outlined controller images! --------------------- Consoles: Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis, Nintendo 64, Playstation 1, Nintendo Gamecube, Playstation 2 Handhelds: Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance Individual Arcade Games: Aliens, Assault, Centipede, Defender, Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr, Donkey Kong 3, Frogger, Galaga, Joust, Mario Bros, Mortal Hombat, Pacman, Qbert, Stree Fighter II, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Xevious Submitter Zkyo Submitted 07/09/2023 Category Playlist Banners
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Version 1.0.1
234 downloads
I decided to create videos of all the games in my Steam library to use with Launchbox, in the style of the standard EmuMovies game video style. 30 seconds of gameplay, followed by 10 seconds of a title screen, with fading effects. Feel free to use them if you want. Note: These videos are not up to the usual standard. Most gameplay videos have watermarks as they are from various youtube channels, and a few title screens have visual glitches. I tried to get support from OBS, but we weren't able to fix the capture issue. The videos are good enough for my use, though. If you want to create your own videos to match, I used y2mate to download videos with no commentary, captured my own title screens, then used DaVinci Resolve to stitch them together. 1 second of audio + video fade in and out at each end, and a 2 second crossfade between clips. Adjust volume as needed, then export at 426x240. ------------------Full list of gameplay videos-------------- 3dSen (NT) 7 Days to Die A Short Hike Age of Wonders III (NT) Agents of Mayhem Alan Wake's American Nightmare Alan Wake Alice - Madness Returns Alien Isolation Always Sometimes Monsters Amnesia - A Machine for Pigs Amnesia - The Dark Descent Anodyne 2 - Return to Dust Anodyne Apogee Throwback Pack (NT) Ark Survival Evolved (NT) Armello Assassin's Creed II (NT) Assault Android Cactus Astroneer Audiosurf 2 Baba Is You Bastion Batman - Arkham Asylum Batman - Arkham City Battlefield 1 Battlefield 4 Battlefield V Beat Hazard Besiege Bioshock Infinite Bit.Trip Runner Black Mesa Blackguards Borderlands - The Pre-Sequel Borderlands 2 Borderlands 3 Braid Breathedge Bridge Constructor - Portal Broken Age Brothers - A Tale of Two Sons Bug Fables - The Everlasting Sapling Call of Duty - Modern Warfare 2 Carrion Celeste Cities - Skylines Clustertruck Company of Heroes Cooking Simulator Counter-Strike - Global Offensive Crawl Crayon Physics Deluxe Cruelty Squad Dark Souls Darkest Dungeon Darkest Hour - Europe '44-'45 Darksiders - Warmastered Edition Darksiders Darwinia Dead Island Dead Space 2 Death Squared Deep Rock Galactic DEFCON Destiny 2 Deus Ex - Human Revolution Distance Divide by Sheep Don't Starve Together Don't Starve DOOM 1993 DOOM 2016 DOOM 64 DOOM Eternal DOOM II Dragon Ball Xenoverse Duck Game Dungeon Defenders Dustforce Dying Light Dynamite Jack Elite Dangerous Empyrion - Galactic Survival Euro Truck Simulator 2 Everhood Factorio Fallout - New Vegas Fallout 4 Fallout Fantasy Blacksmith Farming Simulator 17 Farming Simulator 22 Feather Fez Final Doom Firewatch Forager FRAMED Collection Frostpunk Full Mojo Rampage Gang Beasts Garry's Mod Geometry Wars - Retro Evolved Ghostrunner GNOG Golf With Your Friends Grand Theft Auto IV - The Complete Edition Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Grand Theft Auto V Gratuitous Space Battles Graveyard Keeper Green Hell GRID 2 GRID Hacknet Half-Life 2 Deathmatch Half-Life 2 Episode One Half-Life 2 Episode Two Half-Life 2 Lost Coast Half-Life 2 Half-Life Blue Shift Half-Life Deathmatch Source Half-Life Opposing Force Half-Life Half-Minute Hero Super Mega Neo Climax Ultimate Boy Halo The Master Chief Collection Hand of Fate 2 Hell Yeah Wrath of the Dead Rabbit Hellblade Senua's Sacrifice HITMAN 2 HITMAN Hocus Pocus (Steam) Hollow Knight House Flipper Human Fall Flat Hydroneer Icey Infinifactory Inscryption Insurgency Into the Breach Jamestown - Legend of the Lost Colony Jet Set Radio Jurassic World - Evolution Just Cause Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes Kerbal Space Program KickBeat Kill It With Fire Killing Floor L.A. Noire Lara Croft - Tomb Raider - Anniversary Left 4 Dead 2 LEGO Batman 3 - Beyond Gotham LEGO Harry Potter - Years 1-4 LEGO Harry Potter - Years 5-7 LEGO Jurassic World LEGO Marvel Super Heroes LEGO MARVEL's Avengers LEGO The Hobbit LEGO The Incredibles LEGO The Lord of the Rings Limbo list.txt Little Nightmares Lone Survivor - The Director's Cut Loop Hero Machinarium Masquerade - The Baubles of Doom Master Levels for DOOM II (NT) McPixel (NT) Metal Gear Solid V - Ground Zeroes Metro 2033 Miasmata Micro Mages Microsoft Flight Simulator Middle-Earth - Shadow of Mordor Middle-Earth - Shadow of War Mirror's Edge Momodora - Reverie Under the Moonlight Mr. Shifty Multiwinia Necesse Neon White NightSky No Man's Sky No Time To Explain - Remastered (NT) Only If Ori and the Will of the Wisps Outlast 2 Outlast Oxygen Not Included Paperbark Paradigm Path of Exile PAYDAY - The Heist Penumbra - Black Plague Penumbra Overture Penumbra Requiem Phoenotopia Awakening Pixel Piracy Planet Coaster Planet Zoo Portal 2 Portal Knights Portal Reloaded Portal Stories - Mel Portal PowerWash Simulator Praey for the Gods Primal Carnage - Extinction Primal Carnage Psychonauts 2 Psychonauts Quest of Dungeons Raft Red Faction - Armageddon Red Orchestra - Ostfront 41-45 Red Orchestra 2 - Heroes of Stalingrad Multiplayer Red Orchestra 2 - Heroes of Stalingrad Singleplayer Regular Human Basketball Remember Me Resident Evil 4 Resident Evil 6 RimWorld Risen 2 - Dark Waters Risen Rising Dusk Risk of Rain Road to Ballhalla Rochard RollerCoaster Tycoon - Deluxe RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 - Triple Thrill Pack Sacred 2 - Gold Edition Sacred Citadel Saints Row - Gat out of Hell Saints Row - The Third Saints Row 2 Saints Row IV Satellite Reign Satisfactory Scribblenauts Unlimited Sea of Thieves SEGA Mega Drive & Genesis Classics SEUM - Speedrunners from Hell Shatter Shovel Knight - Treasure Trove Slime Rancher Snood Deluxe Solar 2 SOMA Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed Collection Sonic Adventure 2 Sonic Generations + Casino Night DLC South Park - The Stick of Truth Space Engineers Space Pirates and Zombies SpeedRunners Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy Splice Spyro Reignited Trilogy Star Control - Origins Star Wars - Battlefront II Star Wars - Dark Forces Star Wars - Empire at War - Gold Pack Star Wars - Jedi Knight - Dark Forces II Star Wars - Jedi Knight - Jedi Academy Star Wars - Jedi Knight II - Jedi Outcast Star Wars - Knights of the Old Republic II - The Sith Lords Star Wars - Knights of the Old Republic Star Wars - Rebellion Star Wars - Republic Commando Star Wars - Starfighter Star Wars - The Force Unleashed - Ultimate Sith Edition Star Wars - The Force Unleashed II Star Wars Jedi - Fallen Order Starbound Stardew Valley Stranded Deep Styx - Shards of Darkness Subnautica - Below Zero Subnautica Super Auto Pets Super Hexagon Super Meat Boy Superbrothers - Sword & Sworcery EP Superhot - Mind Control Delete SUPERHOT Superliminal Supreme Commander - Forged Alliance Supreme Commander 2 Supreme Commander System Shock 2 Tabletop Simulator Team Fortress 2 Team Fortress Classic Teardown Terraria Tesla Effect - A Tex Murphy Adventure The Adventure Pals The Binding of Isaac - Rebirth The Elder Scrolls III - Morrowind The Elder Scrolls IV - Oblivion The Elder Scrolls V - Skyrim - Special Edition The Escapists 2 The Forest The Gardens Between The Haunted Island A Frog Detective Game The Long Dark The Stillness of the Wind The Talos Principle The Walking Dead The Witcher III - Wild Hunt The Witness Think of the Children Thinking with Time Machine Thumper Titan Quest - Anniversary Edition Titan Quest Tomb Raider - The Last Revelation Tomb Raider - Underworld Tomb Raider Torchlight Totally Accurate Battle Simulator Touch Some Grass Tower of Guns Tricky Towers TUNIC Ty the Tasmanian Tiger Under the Ocean Undertale Universe Sandbox Uplink - Hacker Elite Valheim Vampire Survivors Vessel Viscera Cleanup Detail - Santa's Rampage Viscera Cleanup Detail - Shadow Warrior Viscera Cleanup Detail Void Bastards VVVVVV Wandersong War Thunder Warhammer 40,000 - Dawn of War - Game of the Year Edition Watch_Dogs Wizorb Wolfenstein 3D Worms - W.M.D XCOM 2 Yoku's Island Express Okami HD -
Launchbox not starting after choosing not to update to 12.14
Zkyo replied to Zkyo's topic in Troubleshooting
A little update on this, this has consistently happened with every update. 12.14, 12.15 (and its hotfix, if i recall), and 13.0. It's simple enough of a fix, just run the installer again on the same directory like Jason said. It's still a little annoying though. -
Yep, it seems to be corrected. Thanks!
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Random game videos option doesn't seem to work with 12.15
Zkyo replied to Zkyo's topic in Troubleshooting
Awesome, thanks in advance for the update! -
Hi, I just updated my Launchbox setup to 12.15 (The update failed again for this version by the way, just like with the 12.14 update despite me moving it from my NAS back into AppData, but i digress), and I'm now having some trouble with the random platform videos. I have a few nested platform categories, and I only want some of them to play specific videos if they exist for that category, otherwise display nothing. After updating to 12.15 though, Bigbox always plays a random game video whenever a platform video does not exist. I use a semi transparent banner in the same spot for video-less categories, so they clash now. I looked in the options, and found two places where these random videos are mentioned. I disabled both, and they are still playing. Video playing underneath banner image: Options/Theme-Specific Options/Videos (Disabled in both Default and Fundamental. Fundamental sometimes has that asterisk, but it is still disabled after a reboot) Options/Videos
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Another update on this: my controller setup is partly broken again, and I don't know why as I didn't change anything. Now if I have any controller connected to my desktop, Steam doesn't detect the Moonlight virtual controller at all, whether it's hidden via hidhide or not. I'm giving up entirely on streaming Bigbox. If anyone ever figures out a better solution, please ping me.
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BigBox Random Game Selector
Zkyo replied to Grila's topic in Third-Party Applications and Plugins (Released)
@Grila Could I possibly get some advice on how to modify this plugin? I'd just like to change the key used to activate the plugin to anything other than a direction, because I use all 4 directions in other menus. Preferably a xbox controller button, but that's probably not that simple. I can use Steam to rebind a controller button to a key. The problem is that I have virtually no experience with coding. I cloned the repo and imported it into Visual Studio, and I think I can do what I'd like by changing a couple lines in RGSv2_0.xaml.cs. Swapping "public bool OnRight()" and "public bool OnPageDown()". I'm not sure how to rebuild the plugin from that point. If I try to build a solution, it fails with 14 errors about missing namespace names. -
I noticed that over on Emumovies, a few people have released packs of maps or strategy guides. Is there any way to add these to Bigbox as a second manual for a game, without replacing the actual manual scan? If not, could I add the PDF files as a media image for a category I don't use, like advertisement flyers?
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Yeah, I can confirm that works too because I've been doing that for like two weeks now (I did mention that in the reddit post). I added BigBox as a non-steam game, then created a Steam shortcut to BB on my desktop which I use manually, and added to GeForce Experience for streaming with Moonlight. It skips the step of having to open Steam or Big Picture. I think we might have confused each other a bit here lol. My setup is already working how I'd like, described in that long post. At least mostly, There's still a couple controllers I couldn't get working right, but that's because Steam doesn't recognize it as a controller. Though if anyone else struggles with this in the future, hopefully this thread will help. Huh, you're right... I never noticed that the overlay wasn't working in BB. I don't think that makes much of a difference to me though, as I don't plan on ever using the Steam overlay in BB or retroarch. Steam still shows you as playing RA or BB, and controller remaps work. A side note for anyone else, if you're going to be starting and stopping games in Steam repeatedly while testing things, set yourself to invisible so you don't spam everyone on your friends list. It's one of my pet peeves. I didn't know that checkbox existed! That'll come in handy for when I eventually start adding older windows games, thanks. Slightly off topic, I just saw that there's a version of Retroarch on the Steam store for free. I'd never heard of it so I thought it was fairly new, but it was added 12 years ago. 😮 Part of me wants to mess around with that version to see if it's any different, but now that my setup is working I don't really want to go break it.
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Launchbox / Bigbox Causing Windows 11 to Shutdown...
Zkyo replied to MuddyWaters79's topic in Troubleshooting
Would you start up Bigbox and let it shut down, then reboot? Check Event Viewer, under Windows Logs/System, and see if there's any entries describing exactly what is triggering the shutdown. Select all logs between starting Bigbox & rebooting (hold shift to select multiple entries), then right click and save selected events. If you can upload the .evtx file it creates, I'll take a look at them. -
Ah, yeah, that makes sense. I didn't really explain well in that sentence. What I meant to say was that using Launchbox to pass parameters to a steam URL shortcut didn't seem to work. I could probably add the parameters to the entry within steam, but that would only work for one game. I'd have to repeatedly add Retroarch as a non-steam game, then add parameters for each core and game. Considering that my LB database has around 9,000 games, there's not a chance I'm doing that lol. My thought there was to change the retroarch emulator location within LB to point to that URL shortcut, so Launchbox would handle changing the parameters as needed. Here's a screenshot of what I tried:
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core folder & Bigbox suddenly cannot find theme file
Zkyo replied to markmon's topic in Troubleshooting
My launchbox/core/themes folder is empty too, copying the launchbox/themes folder shouldn't be necessary at all. Are you able to launch it if you use a different theme? Did this per chance start when you updated to 12.14? -
Launchbox / Bigbox Causing Windows 11 to Shutdown...
Zkyo replied to MuddyWaters79's topic in Troubleshooting
That is strange, I've never seen a program trigger shutdown and sleep at the same time. Maybe check your power plan settings? My friend had a bug in a custom program that would switch his desktop over to battery power. No battery was installed, so the computer would immediately hibernate. It had absolutely nothing to do with Launchbox though.