Cadu Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 35 minutes ago, Sbaby said: I’m not sure if it’s related to the fact that I switched from beta 2 to beta 4 and then back to beta 2, but now, when I launch LaunchBox, it often gets stuck on the small loading screen window. It gives the impression of an infinite loading process, but it never finishes. I have to open Windows Task Manager, forcibly end the LaunchBox process, and then restart it. On the second launch, it works fine. Has anyone else experienced a similar issue or have any suggestions on how to fix it? Thanks! 🙏 In my case, I need to open Launchbox and wait until the screen disappears, because if I click on another program, Launchbox stays on the loading screen indefinitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbaby Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 1 hour ago, Cadu said: In my case, I need to open Launchbox and wait until the screen disappears, because if I click on another program, Launchbox stays on the loading screen indefinitely Thank you very much for sharing your experience. The same thing happens to me regardless of whether I click on other programs or not. I am attaching a video where you can see that on the first launch, Launchbox remains stuck for a long time. After 50 seconds, I decided to terminate the process via the Windows Task Manager. As you can see, I then relaunched Launchbox, and this time it started correctly in about 10 seconds, with an additional 5 seconds to finish loading the game data. lb_loading_crash.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyebrows Cat Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 An error occurs when selecting two or more games and running "Update metadata for selected games". However, the problem may not occur depending on the combination of games. At some point, the LaunchBox version has stopped being displayed, but this is occurring in the latest beta version. I will also submit the error log. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Object reference not set to an instance of an object. App: LaunchBox Version: 13.17-beta-4 Theme: Old Default Type: System.NullReferenceException Site: System.Object ReadDrivenReg(System.Object) Source: Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.Data.Game.ReadDrivenReg(Object ) at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.Data.Game.CanScrapeSteam(String& steamAppId) at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.Desktop.MenuActions.DownloadMetadataAndMediaMenuAction.OnSelect(Boolean skipWizard) at InterceptorPrototype.InitMetaAdapter(Object , Boolean skipWizard, InterceptorPrototype ) at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.Desktop.MenuActions.DownloadMetadataAndMediaMenuAction.OnSelect() at ExporterClass.InitMetaAdapter(Object , ExporterClass ) at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.Desktop.MenuActions.DownloadMetadataAndMediaMenuAction.Go(List`1 games) at ClassInfo.InitMetaAdapter(List`1 games, ClassInfo ) at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.Desktop.ContextMenus.ToolsMenu.<>c.ReflectBatchState(Object sender, RoutedEventArgs args) at System.Windows.EventRoute.InvokeHandlersImpl(Object source, RoutedEventArgs args, Boolean reRaised) at System.Windows.UIElement.RaiseEventImpl(DependencyObject sender, RoutedEventArgs args) at System.Windows.Controls.MenuItem.InvokeClickAfterRender(Object arg) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs) at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler) Recent Log: 8:09:07 Exception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabb3rJaw Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 (edited) I can’t say for sure what update caused this since I’ve been keeping up with the updates but haven’t played my cab a lot. Ever since I started using Bigbox I would occasionally get a black screen on start up but as soon as I hit any button it would go to the wheel, no big deal and I think it’s a known issue. However now when I get the black screen at start up I hit a button and Big Box crashes. I go back to my windows desktop but the taskbar isn’t there. I have to go into task manager and close BigBox then restart it and it’s fine. Edited October 12 by Jabb3rJaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrogamer4423 Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 On 10/10/2024 at 12:15 AM, Sbaby said: Thank you very much for sharing your experience. The same thing happens to me regardless of whether I click on other programs or not. I am attaching a video where you can see that on the first launch, Launchbox remains stuck for a long time. After 50 seconds, I decided to terminate the process via the Windows Task Manager. As you can see, I then relaunched Launchbox, and this time it started correctly in about 10 seconds, with an additional 5 seconds to finish loading the game data. lb_loading_crash.mp4 14.7 MB · 0 downloads For a long time I wanted a lite version of launchbox, a lighter version, a faster launch, but launchbox developers keep adding new features and making the program more cumbersome. When we look at similar systems, for example hyperspin, retrobat, batocera, coinops, it takes only 2 seconds to open. However, with i7 13700 processor, 32 gb DDR 5 ram, RTX 4070 graphics card and 4 tb m2 ssd, it still opens late. Due to the late opening of pictures and videos, I bought a 4 tb m2 ssd to run launchbox files fast besides 4 tb hdd. It has 5k read 4k write speed. This program urgently needs a version that opens faster and runs faster. There are no other features to improve or add. There are so many things that confuse us. I want to get in my game and play and get out. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daliant Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 28 minutes ago, Retrogamer4423 said: For a long time I wanted a lite version of launchbox, a lighter version, a faster launch, but launchbox developers keep adding new features and making the program more cumbersome. When we look at similar systems, for example hyperspin, retrobat, batocera, coinops, it takes only 2 seconds to open. However, with i7 13700 processor, 32 gb DDR 5 ram, RTX 4070 graphics card and 4 tb m2 ssd, it still opens late. Due to the late opening of pictures and videos, I bought a 4 tb m2 ssd to run launchbox files fast besides 4 tb hdd. It has 5k read 4k write speed. This program urgently needs a version that opens faster and runs faster. There are no other features to improve or add. There are so many things that confuse us. I want to get in my game and play and get out. Totally agree with your message. Launchbox and BigBox take away your desire to enjoy your game collection with infinite slowdowns. All the systems you mentioned in your message allow you to navigate your collection fluidly, something I have NEVER been able to have in BigBox. The worst thing of all is that I find it difficult to solve this problem unless the programming base is changed completely. The different themes created for BigBox are impossible to optimize and it doesn't matter if you have a state-of-the-art computer, as soon as an image or video appears you will have slowdowns. The Launchbox/Bigbox team should definitely focus on fixing these performance issues before adding features that are in most cases useless. We want to explore our game collection fluidly just like the rest of the frontends on the market. This problem and the denial of wanting Launchbox to be international, preventing those of us who do not speak English from having ALL the frontend content in other languages, means that this is not the best frontend today, and it is a real shame. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyute Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 In my opinion Launchbox is feature rich with all that it provides at this current point in time. There are other aspects I think they could develop for the frontend but I also can see why people just want it to have performance improvements in regards to speed and efficiency. My pc consists of a i9-10850k, 32gb of ram, a strix 3080 graphics card, and a 1tb nvme drive with two external drives equaling over 25tb of storage. My specs may not be the best but I also witness the same concerns with the frontend opening late along with images and videos being delayed when loading in like Retrogamer4423 posted. I'm someone who like all the bells and whistles and eye candy though it can get more complex then needed if the only thing one wants to do is browse the collection they may have for a game to play and jump in. In the future my hope is the team can focus on tweaks and optimizing so that using the frontend can be less cumbersome to the user rather than new content. Dont get me wrong its still the best option for retro gamers like myself though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
launchretrogirl2562 Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 2 hours ago, Daliant said: The Launchbox/Bigbox team should definitely focus on fixing these performance issues before adding features that are in most cases useless. We want to explore our game collection fluidly just like the rest of the frontends on the market. agree wholeheartedly with that statement! however, when it comes to other systems like hyperspin, retrobat, batocera, coinops....i would still always choose launchbox over all others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparky Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 I thought this thread was about faults on the latest Beta, not a Moaning Match!!!!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyute Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 You have a fair point just responding to another post. Sometimes I can go off topic so thats my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daliant Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 4 hours ago, Asparky said: I thought this thread was about faults on the latest Beta, not a Moaning Match!!!!!!!!!! Unfortunately the performance problem is also still present in this beta, so we have not said anything that is not true. Unfortunately for us, it will also continue in the next beta, and in the next of the next, and in the next of the next of the next... If moderators feel this message is inappropriate, they may delete it. They can also respond to our requests and at least let us know that they will try to solve this problem in the future. This would be something very positive for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro808 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 If it is not an actual issue with features from the latest beta that were added or a new issue that is occurring while using the latest beta it is not beta related. We can take these performance issues to a separate thread if it is something you have been dealing with for a while. The dev team is consistently working on performance concerns a looking for ways to continue to improve it as new features are added. I will not delete any existing comments, but any further will be better served in a separate thread. Feel free to also see the second question from the AMA about performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daliant Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 hour ago, Retro808 said: If it is not an actual issue with features from the latest beta that were added or a new issue that is occurring while using the latest beta it is not beta related. We can take these performance issues to a separate thread if it is something you have been dealing with for a while. The dev team is consistently working on performance concerns a looking for ways to continue to improve it as new features are added. I will not delete any existing comments, but any further will be better served in a separate thread. Feel free to also see the second question from the AMA about performance. Thank you for the comment and your recommendation to read the post with the frequently asked questions. As I mentioned to a colleague in a previous message, the problem with Launchbox/Bigbox only has one solution and it is not simple. I quote verbatim the answer to the second question that you indicated to me in your message: "full rewrite might be necessary to fully resolve these limitations" Greetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro808 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 I have deleted a couple posts from users who continued on the topic of performance and non-beta related issues. Please create a separate thread in the troubleshooting subforum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stensgaard Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 (edited) might be a stupid question but can anyone tell me how to tell what version of launchbox wrote a .log file? I have an error: 2024-08-15 10:29:57 PM FIRST CHANCE EXCEPTION: Cannot locate resource 'views/launchbox_theme_folder/fonts/redhatdisplay-black.ttf'. and it shows up if ALL log files from after Debug 2024-08-15 10-29-48 PM this date, and I think it's related to some problems i'm having! ps I attached my newest log file, to show what happens as I start Big Box! Debug 2024-10-14 11-59-25 AM.log Edited October 14 by stensgaard attached log file 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elhora Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 Hi, it seems i Can't update plugins. When i launch Launchbox, i have a popup saying Mame and Retroarch plugins have updates, but when i do the update, it says Launchbox needs to restart for finishing installation. But after the restart, still the same message and no plugin update. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faeran Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 3 hours ago, Elhora said: Hi, it seems i Can't update plugins. When i launch Launchbox, i have a popup saying Mame and Retroarch plugins have updates, but when i do the update, it says Launchbox needs to restart for finishing installation. But after the restart, still the same message and no plugin update. Only time we've ever seen this is due to some kind of permissions issue with that folder. Can you delete the contents plugins folder while LaunchBox is closed and open LaunchBox again and see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faeran Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 Beta 5 is out with the following changes: Improvement: Save Management support added for .MCR save files with RetroArch's supported Sony PlayStation cores Fixed: Adjusted download priorities from the Edit Game window for more accurate regional media selection from the LaunchBox Games Database Fixed: Resolved potential crashes associated with RetroAchievement when your account's API usage reaches its limit on the RetroAchievement endpoint 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elhora Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 16 minutes ago, faeran said: Only time we've ever seen this is due to some kind of permissions issue with that folder. Can you delete the contents plugins folder while LaunchBox is closed and open LaunchBox again and see if that helps. nothing changed. deleted all the content, checked the plugin forlder is not in read only... updated to beta 5... still same issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbaby Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 13 hours ago, faeran said: Improvement: Save Management support added for .MCR save files with RetroArch's supported Sony PlayStation cores You will also activate .MCD support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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