Lordmonkus Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 As the title states the Mame core of Retroarch is now looking to be extremely good and I would say it is actually worth using. This was posted over on the Libretro forums https://libretro.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7815 It is not an official core but rather a core compiled by a user but after some quick testing I will say it is very good. It is based off the 180 build of Mame, has the nag screen removed and the "tab" menu is now readable. Also I am not sure if this is a core fix or a shader or nothing at all but some quick tests of a couple of shaders like crt-aperture and crt-hyllian-glow they actually look good with vertical oriented games. Below are 2 screen shots, be sure and view them full size to get a proper view of them. Is this better, worse or on par with a stand alone version of Mame using the BGFX or HLSL shaders ? That I cannot answer for sure but I will say that I would not strongly recommend against using this core over a stand alone like I have in the past. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombeaver Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 This is great news! I'll have to try this out. I've always had a mix of MAMEUI, RA / FBA, and RA / MAME for my Arcade platform so if I can pare it down to just RA / MAME that'd be great. Working shaders with vertical alignment alone is huge. Does the Tab menu actually do anything in the core though? That's always been something that's bothered me about MAME in RA in the past - whether legible or not, nothing I changed in it ever seemed to actually stick when using a RA core. This isn't a huge deal on games that have traditional controls (shmups, beat-em-ups, etc.), but it's kindof a huge problem when you start getting into games that have weird control schemes that involve paddles, throttles, etc. because they often require tweaking beyond what's possible via RA's control configuration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yes, the "tab" menu does work, at least it did for me with my controller bindings for specific games like twin stick shooters (Robotron and Smash TV). I am not sure if the vertical games and shaders are necessarily "fixed" as such but from my testing they do look better than they used to look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALIE Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Is the setup straight forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 As straight forward as it can be I guess. You get your Retroarch stuff and now you can actually read the "Tab" key menu and change stuff in it like bindings and stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALIE Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I wonder if the core being officially in the retroarch updater is something we will see soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charco Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) I'd say it could be in for the 1.4.0 release as it seems to be working well so far going by comments in the RetroArch forum. Should be there soon I'd say. Edited December 23, 2016 by Charco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heelsinc Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) does this need a specific rom pack version? I'm just starting to try to set up mame and it sucks! I have the .161 pack with all the updates to .179 but nothing works in mame .179 but most work in .161 mame. Will the retroarch core give me the same issues? Example is WWF Superstars works fine on Mame .161 but not on .179 which is weird cause I didn't see anything for that game in the update packs so I don't think anything on it changed. Edited December 24, 2016 by heelsinc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 I'd imagine that the RA core will have the same issues as the stand alone since the core is compiled from the same code. I'm unaware of any changes with WWF Superstars made since 161 but I do know that in the 178 set of Capcom CPS games they now have a .key file which Mame 178 requires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heelsinc Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 haha yea ignore that example I had moved that particular file to a different folder and didn't tell the newest version of mame where it was If I download the update packs do I just move them into the existing roms folder and replace the older files? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 Just copying over the update pack files is not recommended at all. You should either download a new full set or use a program such as CLRmamePro to update your set with the update packs. @CriticalCiddid a guide on how to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuDentBR Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I've downloaded this new core, and changed the emulator from mame to retroarch and configured the plataform to launch the core properly, but it is not working for me the game does not boot just closes right away, do i have to put the mame bios inside the system folder under retroarch ? or something else ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombeaver Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Yep, bios files go in Retroarch's system folder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 There aren't any such thing as a "mame bios" as such. There are system bios like for consoles. Any bios that a mame rom needs (such as NeoGeo) goes in the folder with the roms themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuDentBR Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 7 hours ago, lordmonkus said: There aren't any such thing as a "mame bios" as such. There are system bios like for consoles. Any bios that a mame rom needs (such as NeoGeo) goes in the folder with the roms themselves. i understand so i do not need to move my "mame" roms folder to make them work with mame core in retroarch right ? Well now i do not know what i did it wrong.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Right, as long as the files are in the same folder it's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombeaver Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Err is that actually the case for the RA core though? I know it is for standalone MAME but I would swear I've had to put system files for MAME in RA's system folder in order for them to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 I've never had to do it to get my Mame roms to work in Retroarch with the Mame core. It's like Neo Geo, the bios for it go in the folder with the roms and not the \system folder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombeaver Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 Well, it's entirely possible it was something I did at the time early on in an attempt to get it working but wasn't actually necessary. I'm not sure. If you don't have to, great. I know for standalone they just have to be in the same folder as the roms; for some reason my recollection was that it worked differently in RA. There's so much stuff in my system folder at this point I'm not sure I could even distinguish which of them, if any, are MAME-related. Do games that use .chds work with the new core? I don't think I ever managed to get those working in RA MAME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Non arcade stuff like consoles and older pcs need weird shit done to the \system folder but as far as I know the standard run of the mill arcade stuff doesn't. It also quite possible that the stuff I tried did not need any bios files at all, my patience with Mame through Retroarch grew thin after I quickly realized how limited it was compared to stand alone. I suppose I could try something that needs a bios like some Atari or Sega system 16 stuff. I know nothing about chds, I never bothered to waste my limited bandwidth on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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