Jason Carr Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, catfer said: the toxic attitude continues. No one should be able to ban a screenshot in games that don't have screenshots. If they do not agree, upload your image alternatives and send them to a vote. It does look like those screenshots have heavy filters on them, so I can understand why the community is rejecting them. The voting system is made so that only a consensus of three or more accepts or rejects (or three more accepts than rejects or vice versa) will result in the final acceptance or rejection, and it is generally designed so that the moderation community can decide. In my personal opinion, this is a rough decision because screenshots should definitely not have such heavy filters applied. That said, any screenshot is better than no screenshot, but in my opinion the filters are really ruining things. I'm not sure if this screenshot below is you as well @catfer, but it's an example of how badly screenshots can be ruined by filters. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't completely fault those moderators for rejecting those screenshots. Like I said, any screenshot is better than nothing, but the filters really get in the way of representing the game properly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfer Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 retro systems have very low resolutions 100-300px if i up the size of the images because 100 or 300px makes me blind... is necesary filters to aplies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Turn off the filters / shaders and take the screen shot, then turn your filters / shaders back on to play. No filters / shaders is the rule for the database. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Carr Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, catfer said: retro systems have very low resolutions 100-300px if i up the size of the images because 100 or 300px makes me blind... is necesary filters to aplies... Ideally screenshots of retro systems should be represented in the original resolution (easiest way), or if you want to blow them up, you should preserve the pixelated nature of the screenshots. But even some blurring (like most emulators default too) would be fine, and would be an improvement over the filters used above. My recommendation though would be to upload screenshots in the original resolution. Yes, the aspect ratio is not quite right, but the entirety of the original screenshot from the game is still captured that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfer Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Jason Carr yes, the smurfs is mine too,... here you have the original size and without filters,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Carr Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just now, catfer said: Jason Carr yes, the smurfs is mine too,... here you have the original size and without filters,,, As small as that is, that is exactly what is ideal for screenshots of those systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfer Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Jason Carr Are you serious? Do you use 640x480 on your desktop? I am using 4k on a 43 '' screen and I need a microscope, I go blind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Take your screenshots scaled up 4,5 or 6 times, whatever they are without a shader and upload them. Here's one of mine and I play on a 1440p monitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfer Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 in my opinion such a small screenshot is useless, because nothing is seen ... But please, should not delete the screenshots, upload yours image alternatives... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Are you just ignoring my posts here at this point ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfer Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 LordMonkus very few games look good if you increase the size of the image, not all are 1943 with small planes ... I am 42 years old, I have been playing with the original systems since I was 6 years old and I have never seen pixels in their original form on the monitors. For this reason I am against ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Yup, i'm 46 years old, been playing games since Pong and I don't play my games without shaders as well but for the database they need to be shown as they are. Rarely are screenshots seen in full screen in LB/BB and these unaltered screenshots look fine. So at this point you can either submit unaltered screenshots or not but posting altered shots will get them rejected. Unaltered shots is the uniform standard for the database and that is how it is going to stay. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spycat Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Whenever I've uploaded images I've got the database statement "Images must be PNG or JPG files. Please ensure that you are uploading only the best images available for this game. Images with third-party watermarks or logos on them will not be accepted". I assume that this is what the mods work with. The use of "best images available" is vague in that it applies to all uploaded image fields and there is no mention of resolution, screenshot or otherwise. Oddly enough, the database currently has a number of boxart images that are clearly stamped with www.site-name.com How can a mod pick up on an apparent screenshot resolution issue while failing to spot an illegal third party watermark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondorito Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 @catfer, content should be as objective and unaltered from the raw material as possible. You might find smoothed pixel-free graphics more appealing to you, but another user might find CRT shading better. When contributing to these type of databases, you need to bear in mind that preservation is king. If you feel that the original screenshot (how it was actually rendered by the console) is to small without zooming it digitally, you can easily apply a 4x rescale (pre or post emulation) like @Lordmonkus mentioned and it will look just fine (I took the liberty of doing it to your posted image): I hope you understand why uploading multimedia and metadata to a shared database should be devoid of subjective weight, and wish you keep contributing to the cause 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondorito Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, spycat said: How can a mod pick up on an apparent screenshot resolution issue while failing to spot an illegal third party watermark? The mod status in the database is pretty easy to achieve, meaning that potentially anybody could be a mod in a short while, and the mods not being a fixed/closed group poses a problem in the sense that each individual mod will judge according to his/her own preferences, and adding to the fact that the result is voted by almost a handful of random users makes it worse. I understand though that if the voting needed to approve or reject something gets increased, then everything would take a lot more time to get uploaded and the queues of pending approvals will get even bigger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Carr Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 hours ago, spycat said: Whenever I've uploaded images I've got the database statement "Images must be PNG or JPG files. Please ensure that you are uploading only the best images available for this game. Images with third-party watermarks or logos on them will not be accepted". I assume that this is what the mods work with. The use of "best images available" is vague in that it applies to all uploaded image fields and there is no mention of resolution, screenshot or otherwise. Oddly enough, the database currently has a number of boxart images that are clearly stamped with www.site-name.com How can a mod pick up on an apparent screenshot resolution issue while failing to spot an illegal third party watermark? Because moderators aren't perfect, nor are humans... I believe this is at least the second time you've gone off on this tangent, and that's just what I've seen. We really could use less pot stirring around here, in all honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfer Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) My intention is to continue collaborating with the site, if theyallow me... We all know that Game Boy games have a resolution of 120 px apart of this Each game boy model makes the games look different. DMG models <- the original green lcd screen Game boy pocket <- abandoned the original green tones and replaced them with a gray palette with hints of brown. Game Boy Color Models <- Provides colours for the gray games of the model DMG. my question is; What kind of screenshots should I use for this system? Here I leave some examples with description: Window 5x / Game Boy DMG original system / no filters or shaders Window 5x / Game Boy POCKET original system /no filters or shaders Window 5x / Game Boy COLOR original system / no filters or shaders Window 5x / Game Boy COLOR original system / with the vulkan shader omniscale.slang Window 5x / Game Boy COLOR original system / BILINEAR FILTER Edited July 4, 2020 by catfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, catfer said: My intention is to continue collaborating with the site, if theyallow me... We all know that Game Boy games have a resolution of 120 px apart of this Each game boy model makes the games look different. DMG models <- the original green lcd screen Game boy pocket <- abandoned the original green tones and replaced them with a gray palette with hints of brown. Game Boy Color Models <- Provides colours for the gray games of the model DMG. my question is; What kind of screenshots should I use for this system? Here I leave some examples with description: Window 5x / Game Boy DMG original system / no filters or shaders Window 5x / Game Boy POCKET original system /no filters or shaders Window 5x / Game Boy COLOR original system / no filters or shaders Window 5x / Game Boy COLOR original system / with the vulkan shader omniscale.slang Window 5x / Game Boy COLOR original system / BILINEAR FILTER Either of the first two, the others are Game Boy Color, that's a separate system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfer Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 Many things have changed, from the first answers that have appeared in this topic. @Jason Carr Especially if a game does not have screenshots already GamesDB rules New rules have been added for convenience (or maybe they only apply to me?) Because there are many images that break the rules (size and watermarks) It seems that for some users, it is much more beautiful to see a game without screenshots, without offering any alternative, they only entered the database to ban the work of others. I do not like small images in my opinion they are useless, but I respect that other users may like small images and I do not delete or ask to delete small or pixelated images. The rules did not speak about filters, shaders or sizes and I uploaded the images that I considered more beautiful, useful and of better quality, all of them captured by me. I have uploaded more than 1000 modifications and I have never had problems. Why have things changed so much worse now? Isn't it about contributing our own captures to achieve a more complete and beautiful database? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, catfer said: The rules did not speak about filters, shaders or sizes and I uploaded the images that I considered more beautiful, useful and of better quality, all of them captured by me. Those images using filters and shaders DO NOT represent how the game should look on its original hardware. 4 minutes ago, catfer said: Isn't it about contributing our own captures to achieve a more complete and beautiful database? No, not if the screenshots you provide do not look like how the actual game is supposed to look. We want screenshots of the games, warts and all, we do not want images that are touched up to look "beautiful" in your eyes. (Personally i think they look absolutely disgusting, and i dont want them anywhere near my Launchbox, but thats just my opinion). What you are trying to do here is force your own personal preference of how a game should look onto everyone who downloads from our database, and that isnt on. So once again to clarify, NO FILTERS/SHADERS IN UPLOADS TO THE DATABASE. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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