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I'm still getting random crashes without warnings in BigBox and on beta 3 (also previous betas), with both video backend players, the debug log shows a bunch of attract mode and music stuff right before crashing, i disabled them but made no difference.

Here's a couple of logs:

Debug Logs Beta 3.zip
 

Posted
33 minutes ago, Suhrvivor said:

I'm still getting random crashes without warnings in BigBox and on beta 3 (also previous betas), with both video backend players, the debug log shows a bunch of attract mode and music stuff right before crashing, i disabled them but made no difference.

Here's a couple of logs:

Debug Logs Beta 3.zip 175.29 kB · 1 download
 

For us to do research on your exact crash, we would need any Event Viewer application logs of the crash, which usually come in twos, along with any WER reports that come with the application log.

Posted (edited)

Having an issue with the latest beta where Launchbox will crash during the import game process. I drag the game into Launchbox, get past the first couple of import windows but then it crashes and I have to force quit.

Edit: after a while it stopped doing it and has since worked. I'll continue to monitor the issue.

Edited by Retrofrogg
Posted

I am also experiencing random crashes while BigBox is playing video in Attract Mode. Sometimes it runs for hours, sometimes only a few minutes. I'm attaching screenshots of the event logs. Please let me know what other information you need--I am a brand-new customer and I am REALLY enjoying using LaunchBox+BigBox. I'm happy to do whatever I can to help y'all out! --Dave

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Posted
2 hours ago, SuperDaveOsborne said:

I am also experiencing random crashes while BigBox is playing video in Attract Mode. Sometimes it runs for hours, sometimes only a few minutes. I'm attaching screenshots of the event logs. Please let me know what other information you need--I am a brand-new customer and I am REALLY enjoying using LaunchBox+BigBox. I'm happy to do whatever I can to help y'all out! --Dave

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Thanks, do you also have LaunchBox debug logs when this crash happened. Also, in that second report, there's that long link at the bottom of it which should lead you to the WER report. If you can attach that here as well, that would be super helpful.

Posted
19 hours ago, Retrofrogg said:

Having an issue with the latest beta where Launchbox will crash during the import game process. I drag the game into Launchbox, get past the first couple of import windows but then it crashes and I have to force quit.

Edit: after a while it stopped doing it and has since worked. I'll continue to monitor the issue.

Thanks, let us know. I haven't been able to reproduce this. Usually when this is reported it's due to something on the user's computer conflicting with the wizard. The wizards are somewhat i/o heavy, so other things happening on the computer can trip it up sometimes.

Posted
56 minutes ago, faeran said:

Thanks, do you also have LaunchBox debug logs when this crash happened. Also, in that second report, there's that long link at the bottom of it which should lead you to the WER report. If you can attach that here as well, that would be super helpful.

Report.werHere's the WER file. I'm afraid I don't have the LaunchBox debug log, but I've turned on logging now in case it happens again.

Posted (edited)

I've noticed with the latest beta that the 3D box model icon doesn't always show as it should. When I'm browsing games, sometimes it loads correctly and sometimes it doesn't. Here it doesn't load:

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And if I move onto another game or two then come back, it loads:

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Edited by Retrofrogg
Posted

Beta 4 is out with the following fixes:

  • New Feature: Added Save Management maintenance tools to repair missing save metadata or clear and rebuild save metadata from emulator and vaulted saves
  • Improvement: PCSX2 save matching now supports CHD disc images
  • Improvement: Dolphin Wii save discovery and restore now support both disc saves and channel saves
  • Improvement: 3D models now handle cached and fallback artwork more reliably
  • Fixed: GOG media downloads now work reliably for icons, posters, and screenshots
  • Fixed: Fullscreen image viewing no longer overlaps the taskbar and scales images correctly across image types, DPI, and monitors
  • Fixed: Imports and media downloads now respect media limits more accurately, including no-limit automated imports
  • Fixed: Game details videos no longer steal focus from the game grid
  • Fixed: FFME video cleanup is more stable and less likely to hang or crash
  • Fixed: Welcome wizard selections are saved more reliably when finishing setup
  • Fixed: The bundled Xbox - White controller input pack no longer incorrectly reports that an update is available
  • Fixed: The Manage Storefronts window no longer errors when using the Close button
  • Fixed: Save Management now removes deleted save metadata immediately and more reliably, preventing stale saved-game and save-state badges from remaining after saves are deleted

 

We are coming up to the end of the cycle and we are overall fairly happy with where we've landed. Thanks everyone for helping with this release cycle.

We've got more to come with a bunch of overhauled systems for the next release, and it should be a much larger one than this one. We spent quite a lot of time this cycle setting up new internal workflows to try and speed things while reducing risk at the same time, so hopefully the results will show off quickly with larger scoping changes coming out in faster succession than we were doing over the last few years.

On 5/3/2026 at 8:57 AM, Retrofrogg said:

I've noticed with the latest beta that the 3D box model icon doesn't always show as it should. When I'm browsing games, sometimes it loads correctly and sometimes it doesn't. Here it doesn't load:

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And if I move onto another game or two then come back, it loads:

image.thumb.png.54222683d5011dd5619b16b22e958e46.png

This should be specifically addressed in Beta 4.

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Posted

Dealing with a persistent bug on beta 3 and 4 where FFMPEG will freeze my entire ui on game details view textgamesview after the video for that game reaches the end and attempts to loop. This issue does not exist when switching to Windows Media Player. The freeze after several minutes seems to resolve itself and throws an exception error: 

App:     Big Box
Version: 13.27-beta-4
Theme:   My theme
Type:    System.ComponentModel.Win32Exception
Site:    Void UpdateWindowSettings(Boolean, System.Nullable`1[System.Windows.Media.Composition.DUCE+ChannelSet])
Source:  PresentationCore

   at System.Windows.Interop.HwndTarget.UpdateWindowSettings(Boolean enableRenderTarget, Nullable`1 channelSet)
   at System.Windows.Interop.HwndTarget.UpdateWindowPos(IntPtr lParam)
   at System.Windows.Interop.HwndTarget.HandleMessage(WindowMessage msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
   at System.Windows.Interop.HwndSource.HwndTargetFilterMessage(IntPtr hwnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wParam, IntPtr lParam, Boolean& handled)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.InternalRealCall(Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs)
   at System.Windows.Threading.ExceptionWrapper.TryCatchWhen(Object source, Delegate callback, Object args, Int32 numArgs, Delegate catchHandler)

Recent Log:

   4:52:21 PM Exception

 

ALSO, heres my log after I navigated to TextGamesView and waited for the video to stop playing: 

2026-05-04T16:46:58.3200305-04:00 New Navigation Manager stack: PlatformWheel3FiltersViewModel > TextGamesViewModel
2026-05-04T16:46:58.3213845-04:00 Music.Kill Start
2026-05-04T16:46:58.3215409-04:00 Music.Kill Finished
2026-05-04T16:46:59.4471324-04:00 Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2026-05-04T16:46:59.4803939-04:00 Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2026-05-04T16:46:59.6518924-04:00 [FFME Log]: Direct Command 'Close' not accepted. Open media before closing or changing media.
2026-05-04T16:47:00.0909282-04:00 [FFME Log]: SYNC AUDIO: SKIP OK  | Initial: 48 ms. Current: -10 ms. Requested: 50 ms.
2026-05-04T16:47:03.8124812-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:04.2317705-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:04.4416065-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:04.6254108-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:05.2769292-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:05.5124534-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:06.4008463-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:07.0022503-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:07.6559319-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:07.8128807-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:07.9960044-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:08.3880424-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:08.8146354-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:09.5197656-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:10.2765781-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:10.4684663-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:10.6258521-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:10.9914065-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:11.2267963-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:13.5500153-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:13.5534341-04:00 Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2026-05-04T16:47:13.5541352-04:00 Disposing videos: Disposing ImageVideoView...
2026-05-04T16:47:13.5561307-04:00 Disposing videos: Disposing BackgroundVideoView...
2026-05-04T16:47:13.5563299-04:00 Disposing videos: Invoking UI thread...
2026-05-04T16:47:13.5568095-04:00 Disposing videos: Starting delay dispose process for all video control classes...
2026-05-04T16:47:13.5572332-04:00 Navigation Manager going back
2026-05-04T16:47:13.5585958-04:00 New Navigation Manager stack: PlatformWheel3FiltersViewModel
2026-05-04T16:47:13.5672515-04:00 Music.Kill Start
2026-05-04T16:47:13.5674838-04:00 Music.Kill Finished
2026-05-04T16:47:13.9318873-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:13.9324458-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5597580-04:00 Beginning GamesViewModelBase dispose process...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5600437-04:00 Disposing videos...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5602361-04:00 Disposing background view model...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5606252-04:00 Disposing background image view model...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5608577-04:00 Disposing image video view model...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5611310-04:00 Disposing image view model...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5621859-04:00 Disposing games list view model...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5632512-04:00 Disposing list view model...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5640895-04:00 Disposing menu items list view model...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5642483-04:00 Disposing game details view model...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5654277-04:00 Disposing image video view...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5655932-04:00 Disposing background video view...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5657214-04:00 Nulling out image video view...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5658266-04:00 Nulling out background video view...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5659175-04:00 Nulling out all image sources...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5664828-04:00 Nulling out view...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5666579-04:00 Processing garbage collection...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5668176-04:00 Reducing nondisposed count...
2026-05-04T16:47:14.5669600-04:00 GamesViewModelBase dispose process completed successfully.
2026-05-04T16:47:14.7174650-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:14.9533637-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:15.1374323-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:15.3468309-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:15.3472334-04:00 FiltersViewModelBase.PauseVideo Started
2026-05-04T16:47:15.3478390-04:00 FiltersViewModelBase.PauseVideo Completed
2026-05-04T16:47:15.3482390-04:00 Navigation Manager loading new view
2026-05-04T16:47:15.3484176-04:00 FiltersViewModelBase.PauseVideo Started
2026-05-04T16:47:15.3492016-04:00 FiltersViewModelBase.PauseVideo Completed
2026-05-04T16:47:15.3493739-04:00 Navigation manager changing views. ResetTree: False
2026-05-04T16:47:15.4011552-04:00 New Navigation Manager stack: PlatformWheel3FiltersViewModel > TextGamesViewModel
2026-05-04T16:47:15.4016186-04:00 Music.Kill Start
2026-05-04T16:47:15.4017749-04:00 Music.Kill Finished
2026-05-04T16:47:16.4868661-04:00 Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2026-05-04T16:47:16.5155881-04:00 Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2026-05-04T16:47:16.6629076-04:00 [FFME Log]: Direct Command 'Close' not accepted. Open media before closing or changing media.
2026-05-04T16:47:16.9945664-04:00 [FFME Log]: SYNC AUDIO: SKIP OK  | Initial: 54 ms. Current: -10 ms. Requested: 50 ms.
2026-05-04T16:47:17.4469041-04:00 [FFME Log]: SYNC AUDIO: SKIP OK  | Initial: 42 ms. Current: -10 ms. Requested: 50 ms.
2026-05-04T16:47:20.8478331-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:47:21.6576857-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:48:02.8930949-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T16:48:12.9925970-04:00 Music.Pause Start
2026-05-04T16:52:21.9344555-04:00 Music.Resume Start
2026-05-04T16:52:21.9997645-04:00 Music.Pause Start
2026-05-04T16:52:22.0732017-04:00 [FFME Log]: SEEK TP: Target Pos      0.000 not between 0.021 and 41.221
2026-05-04T17:00:17.8237359-04:00 [FFME Log]: SYNC AUDIO: SKIP OK  | Initial: 57 ms. Current: -10 ms. Requested: 50 ms.
2026-05-04T17:00:18.4453189-04:00 Music.Resume Start
2026-05-04T17:00:19.2195869-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T17:00:19.2204148-04:00 Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2026-05-04T17:00:19.2206435-04:00 Disposing videos: Disposing ImageVideoView...
2026-05-04T17:00:19.2223549-04:00 Disposing videos: Disposing BackgroundVideoView...
2026-05-04T17:00:19.2225104-04:00 Disposing videos: Invoking UI thread...
2026-05-04T17:00:19.2226203-04:00 Disposing videos: Starting delay dispose process for all video control classes...
2026-05-04T17:00:19.2228436-04:00 Navigation Manager going back
2026-05-04T17:00:19.2238457-04:00 New Navigation Manager stack: PlatformWheel3FiltersViewModel
2026-05-04T17:00:19.2263333-04:00 Music.Kill Start
2026-05-04T17:00:19.2265409-04:00 Music.Kill Finished
2026-05-04T17:00:19.5988611-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T17:00:19.6012773-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2246510-04:00 Beginning GamesViewModelBase dispose process...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2249576-04:00 Disposing videos...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2250889-04:00 Disposing background view model...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2257265-04:00 Disposing background image view model...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2259176-04:00 Disposing image video view model...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2261186-04:00 Disposing image view model...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2263780-04:00 Disposing games list view model...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2267222-04:00 Disposing list view model...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2280188-04:00 Disposing menu items list view model...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2281647-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2281740-04:00 Disposing game details view model...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2289229-04:00 Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2289371-04:00 DataManager.SaveInternal started.
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2291076-04:00 FiltersViewModelBase.PauseVideo Started
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2298212-04:00 FiltersViewModelBase.PauseVideo Completed
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2309383-04:00 Saving InputBindings.xml...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2380564-04:00 Navigation Manager loading new view
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2382942-04:00 FiltersViewModelBase.PauseVideo Started
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2388581-04:00 FiltersViewModelBase.PauseVideo Completed
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2389864-04:00 Navigation manager changing views. ResetTree: False
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2391415-04:00 New Navigation Manager stack: PlatformWheel3FiltersViewModel > SystemViewModel
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2392587-04:00 Music.Kill Start
2026-05-04T17:00:20.2393491-04:00 Music.Kill Finished
2026-05-04T17:00:20.3160653-04:00 Disposing image video view...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.3163534-04:00 Disposing background video view...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.3164791-04:00 Nulling out image video view...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.3165817-04:00 Nulling out background video view...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.3166816-04:00 Nulling out all image sources...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.3176947-04:00 Nulling out view...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.3180220-04:00 Processing garbage collection...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.3182738-04:00 Reducing nondisposed count...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.3184985-04:00 GamesViewModelBase dispose process completed successfully.
2026-05-04T17:00:20.3387691-04:00 Saving GameControllers.xml...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.4469965-04:00 Saving ListCache.xml...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.5774255-04:00 Saving Settings.xml...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.6863996-04:00 Saving BigBoxSettings.xml...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.8632549-04:00 Saving ImportBlacklist.xml...
2026-05-04T17:00:20.9738741-04:00 DataManager.SaveInternal completed successfully.
2026-05-04T17:00:21.1240182-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T17:00:21.8276621-04:00 Attract Mode stopped
2026-05-04T17:00:21.8295425-04:00 Big Box Beginning Shutdown Process...
2026-05-04T17:00:21.8298818-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Killing Controller Thread...
2026-05-04T17:00:21.8302617-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Killing Keyboard Automation...
2026-05-04T17:00:21.8325995-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Clearing View Models...
2026-05-04T17:00:21.8328965-04:00 Navigation Manager loading new view
2026-05-04T17:00:22.5336883-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Shutting Down LEDBlinky Support...
2026-05-04T17:00:22.5341256-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Closing Windows...
2026-05-04T17:00:22.5539330-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Unhiding Taskbar...
2026-05-04T17:00:22.5545251-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Unhiding Cursor...
2026-05-04T17:00:22.5550158-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Saving Selections...
2026-05-04T17:00:22.5554598-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Shutting Down Audio Engine...
2026-05-04T17:00:22.5560127-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Waiting for Save Process to Complete...
2026-05-04T17:00:22.5576388-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Removing Temporary Files...
2026-05-04T17:00:22.5585578-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Killing Background Updater...
2026-05-04T17:00:22.5589921-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Running Automatic Data Backup...
2026-05-04T17:00:23.8540831-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Invoking Before Final Quit...
2026-05-04T17:00:23.8546364-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Shutting Down CEF...
2026-05-04T17:00:23.8764604-04:00 Big Box Shutdown: Final Shutdown

Posted (edited)

Hello!

Thanks for this beta!

As noted by @Rlad, the auto-import wizard launches at startup whether or not it's checked in the options.

BUT if it's not checked, it doesn't seem to be “actually” active! It's brief, and in my case, it doesn't detect a ROM that's been added.

On the other hand, if I check the option, it seems to perform a proper scan, detects the added ROM... and crashes for no apparent reason in that case.

See attached video.

And I didn’t look into it (the crash) further because that wasn’t the point. However, the added ROM was a different version (in another language) of a ROM that was already present. Maybe that’s related?

As for the fanart backgrounds, I get the same crash as @Rlad when I try to view them in BB using the “View images fullscreen” option. No problem in LB, though.

BUT I don't have this problem only with fanart backgrounds. Here is the log of an error that occurred with a Disc image, without any fanart background present :

The calling thread cannot access this object because a different thread owns it.

App:     Big Box
Version: 13.27-beta-4
Theme:   VisioN
Type:    System.InvalidOperationException
Site:    Void <VerifyAccess>g__ThrowVerifyAccess|7_0()
Source:  WindowsBase

   at System.Windows.Threading.Dispatcher.<VerifyAccess>g__ThrowVerifyAccess|7_0()
   at System.Windows.DependencyObject.GetValue(DependencyProperty dp)
   at System.Windows.Controls.Image.get_Source()
   at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.Controls.PixelPerfectImageScaler.InsertServerController()
   at RandomCompressorAggregator.ReadExplorerList(Object, RandomCompressorAggregator)
   at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.Controls.PixelPerfectImageScaler.ResetScale()
   at PassiveDicAggregator.ReadExplorerList(Object, PassiveDicAggregator)
   at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.Controls.PixelPerfectImageScaler.set_ScaleMode(PixelPerfectImageScaleMode value)
   at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.BigBox.ViewModels.ImagesViewModel.AssembleReg()
   at AggregatorBuilderPredictor.SumCustomizableProgram(Object, AggregatorBuilderPredictor)
   at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.BigBox.ViewModels.ImagesViewModel.ConvertRandomSubscriber()
   at ConverterDictionary.SumCustomizableProgram(Object, ConverterDictionary)
   at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.BigBox.ViewModels.ImagesViewModel.OnRight(Boolean held, Boolean onlyRightPressed)
   at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.BigBox.NavigationManager.OnRight(Boolean held, Boolean onlyPressed)
   at RemoteResolverAggregator.SumCustomizableProgram(Object, Boolean held, Boolean onlyPressed, RemoteResolverAggregator)
   at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.BigBox.ViewModels.MainViewModel.OnRight(Boolean onlyRightPressed)
   at AggregatorTaskTransformer.SumCustomizableProgram(Object, Boolean onlyRightPressed, AggregatorTaskTransformer)
   at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.BigBox.ViewModels.MainViewModel.InterruptDecorator(Guid setup)
   at (Object, Guid)
   at TransferableSetAggregator.SumCustomizableProgram(Object, Guid setup, TransferableSetAggregator)
   at Unbroken.LaunchBox.Windows.BigBox.ViewModels.MainViewModel.<>c__DisplayClass261_1.ReceiveGroupedObserver()
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
--- End of stack trace from previous location ---
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)

Recent Log:

   09:16:04 Exception

---------------------

As for FFmpeg, it still seems just as unstable to me, since LB shut down without an error message a few minutes after I switched to FFmpeg instead of WMP.

I haven't retested it in BB, but I imagine the problem must be the same.

Thanks anyway for this update!

Edited by JaredN

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