Sega Model 2 Emulator | EVERYTHING Pre Configured inc Controls. For PC, Controller, Mouse & Light guns. Test Menu's Configured. Analogue Inputs Calibrated. Free Play. All Games in English. 2 Player Mouse Support. No Screen Flash 1.0.4

Thanks for this.

All mouse games (hotd,bel etc) do not start using controller or mouse (you have to use keyboard)

Anyway around this ?

Edited November 29, 2022 by zugswang

4 hours ago, zugswang said:

Thanks for this.

All mouse games (hotd,bel etc) do not start using controller or mouse (you have to use keyboard)

Anyway around this ?

Because only one input can be bound at a time using multiple inputs for one button isn't possible. I put start on the keyboard as most users are going to be using a mouse. You'll need to change this if you want it on the controller. 
-Step 1 - Turn RawInput off (0) on the EMULATOR.INI to allow you to select the window bar as RawInput locks the cursor in the window.
-Step 2 - Start the game and hit esc to go into windowed mode.
-Step 4 - Open 'Game' option in window bar and select Configure Controls
-Step 4 - Double click the input you want to change and then press the input you want it to be.
-Step 4 - Press Close and ya good. It is saved

Thanks for this! Loving this and the Model 3 guides. Thanks for all the hard work!

However, I am encountering an issue with WideScreen hack - it doesn't work for some reason.
I am playing on a handheld PC called GPD WIN 2 which has a screen resolution of 1280x720.

So in the .ini file, I set:

FullScreenWidth=1280
FullScreenHeight=720
(with the original setting 1920x1080, the app crashed whenever I put it in fullscreen mode).

Might this change have impacted the WideScreen hack not to work?

I am using Merged roms as instructed.

Thanks in advance for the help.

so i copied and over writed everyithing but my xbox controller does not seem to work with this emulator no matter what i do.  any ideas on what else i can try?

Hi @Warped Polygon thanks again for this awesome project man, really glad to have started importing this system with your instructions and files. It really is an awesome platform and thanks to you many people can now enjoy it!

I have some questions. I had to change the resolution to 2160p as my screens didn't like switching to 1080p and back to 2160p again, marquee monitor is then off set and windows screens and dpi scaling also messes up.
1. All looks great in 2160p and I also disabled rawinput for the mice as I recall I had to do this to make lightgun games work well, correct?
2. Only drawback should be I can't play light gun games with 2 players right? <-That's no issue for me though.
3. Are there any other things I should change when going to 2160p, or will it all work as you configured it?
4. I don't have widescreen for Dynamite Deka 2 but I do have widescreen for Dynamite Cop, is there something I should/could do?

Edited March 4, 2023 by Mr. RetroLust

4 hours ago, Mr. RetroLust said:

2. Only drawback should be I can't play light gun games with 2 players right? <-That's no issue for me though.

If you do in the future, letting Demulshooter handle the guns is the way to go. Simple to start as an additional app in LB.

On 3/4/2023 at 10:37 AM, Mr. RetroLust said:

Hi @Warped Polygon thanks again for this awesome project man, really glad to have started importing this system with your instructions and files. It really is an awesome platform and thanks to you many people can now enjoy it!

I have some questions. I had to change the resolution to 2160p as my screens didn't like switching to 1080p and back to 2160p again, marquee monitor is then off set and windows screens and dpi scaling also messes up.
1. All looks great in 2160p and I also disabled rawinput for the mice as I recall I had to do this to make lightgun games work well, correct?
2. Only drawback should be I can't play light gun games with 2 players right? <-That's no issue for me though.
3. Are there any other things I should change when going to 2160p, or will it all work as you configured it?
4. I don't have widescreen for Dynamite Deka 2 but I do have widescreen for Dynamite Cop, is there something I should/could do?

@Mr. RetroLust Thanks for the kind words mate.

Disabling rawinput will disable 2 players functionality but it will scale the mouse movement so you wont have to swing the mouse as far which is nice, if only using a mouse.

2160p should work but you may need to recalibrate the light gun games to be accurate.

Dynamite Deka 2 was updated into the build however I forgot to set this to widescreen with a LUA script. Just copy the Dynamite cop lua and rename to Dynamite Deka/

I am about to update this to fix Dynamite Deka and add more options

Edited March 5, 2023 by Warped Polygon

On 1/21/2023 at 3:42 PM, launchboxuser said:

Thanks for this! Loving this and the Model 3 guides. Thanks for all the hard work!

However, I am encountering an issue with WideScreen hack - it doesn't work for some reason.
I am playing on a handheld PC called GPD WIN 2 which has a screen resolution of 1280x720.

So in the .ini file, I set:

FullScreenWidth=1280
FullScreenHeight=720
(with the original setting 1920x1080, the app crashed whenever I put it in fullscreen mode).

Might this change have impacted the WideScreen hack not to work?

I am using Merged roms as instructed.

Thanks in advance for the help.

The widescreen functionality is used via lua scripts, not the widescreen hack in the ini file. Just leave this off and use lua scripts.

1 hour ago, Warped Polygon said:

@Mr. RetroLust Thanks for the kind words mate.

Disabling rawinput will disable 2 players functionality but it will scale the mouse movement so you wont have to swing the mouse as far which is nice, if only using a mouse.

2160p should work but you may need to recalibrate the light gun games to be accurate.

Dynamite Deka 2 was updated into the build however I forgot to set this to widescreen with a LUA script. Just copy the Dynamite cop lua and rename to Dynamite Deka/

I am about to update this to fix Dynamite Deka and add more options

Thanks bro! All is working fine now also the lightgun games which dont even need recalibration. Only small issue going to 2160p is the red crosshair in lightgun games, it is really small now lol Is this something that can be helped by scripts as well?

Edit: I tried to copy and rename the lua script of Dynamite Cop to Dynamite Deka 2 but it doesn't work, I'll await your fix

Edited March 5, 2023 by Mr. RetroLust

Massive thank you Warped Polygon for this and the Model 3 setup guides. With your Confiigs and settings I was able to set both Emulators up on my Steam Deck, keeping all your tweaks. I also got games launching independently through Steam and the ability to add artwork etc. I cant thank you enough!

9 hours ago, Mr. RetroLust said:

Thanks bro! All is working fine now also the lightgun games which dont even need recalibration

Awesome. That changed for me when switching resolutions. Have a suspicion this emulator behaves differently depending on if you have you graphics card or monitor set to scale the image.

I'm in the process of adding the Daytona hacks and creating controller images, tweaking some stuff that I have just found out about and of course getting it all in WS. 
Gonna do an updated streamlined video that'll cover lightgun stuff and common issues like needing a Windows Runtime

I'm actually stoked that the light gun accuracy scales resolutions above 1080. I was gonna create versions for different resolutions...

Thanks so much man for all of the work you put into this! Just a quick question. I was just going through and testing everything and the Daytona and Zerogunner inputs (and several others) don't appear to be working as you have them listed in the pictures. For example, the trigger buttons in Zero Gunner are replicating the horizontal joystick movement, or in Dynamite Cop, my character just drifts into a wall. Is that a me thing or are they incorrect?

Also, in fighting games where the D-pad listed as the directional, I find that the left joystick is working instead. Which I'm fine with, but maybe the added context could help clue you off to what I'm experiencing and help you point to a culprit for me.

I noticed something weird with this emulator in house of the dead when I move my mouse to an edge of the screen and left click the screen it loses focus and I'm not able to activate the screen again despite the sounds still being played. I did some googling and found some old posts about it but no real solution, someone mentioned fulscreenmode=4 in the .ini would work for him but it already has this setting, should I try set it to another value? I dont have any idea what they would do though.

Here is the AHK solution by @JoeViking245 if you also notice the edge problem on 2160p: 

 

Edited March 16, 2023 by Mr. RetroLust

On 3/10/2023 at 6:59 PM, FetusSandwich said:

Thanks so much man for all of the work you put into this! Just a quick question. I was just going through and testing everything and the Daytona and Zerogunner inputs (and several others) don't appear to be working as you have them listed in the pictures. For example, the trigger buttons in Zero Gunner are replicating the horizontal joystick movement, or in Dynamite Cop, my character just drifts into a wall. Is that a me thing or are they incorrect?

Also, in fighting games where the D-pad listed as the directional, I find that the left joystick is working instead. Which I'm fine with, but maybe the added context could help clue you off to what I'm experiencing and help you point to a culprit for me.

What controller are you using?

On 3/23/2023 at 11:21 AM, Warped Polygon said:

What controller are you using?

I appears as "Microsoft Xbox 360 Pad", and whenever I attempt to enable XInput = 1 in the EMULATOR.ini file, it stops working all together. It's really bizarre.

19 hours ago, FetusSandwich said:

I appears as "Microsoft Xbox 360 Pad", and whenever I attempt to enable XInput = 1 in the EMULATOR.ini file, it stops working all together. It's really bizarre.

Your controller should be working fine with xinput then .Model 2 Emu isn't the most stable. You'll need to delete the CFG's and NVDATA and put them back from a fresh download. Should fix the crash/stopping issue. Let me know how you get on.

Edited March 25, 2023 by Warped Polygon

appreciate this heaps - however, im struggling with indy500, i see you have notes about configuring it via volume - however, even in the gui now if i click on config controls after loading that rom and double click to assign steering the UI crashes   I have a PXM 900 - fyi, lucky all my other model 2 games run with the wheel and even force feedback but that one has me stumped

appreciate any advice

Thank you for doing this as it has been super helpful. A couple of questions:

1. For Sega Water Ski, you mention an engineering fix needed to change the country to USA, but it's unclear where that fix is or how to implement it. Water Ski is the one game where the country seems to be locked on Japan.

2. Someone else mentioned this also, but have you encountered an issue where the Model 2 emulator crashes when attempting to change the analog controls? I have a Logitech wheel and am unable to map the controls to it as the emu crashes immediately upon trying to change any analog setting. I know it's not the ROM as I've tried several and it happens with every ROM that has the analog option.

48 minutes ago, Drivin33 said:

2. Someone else mentioned this also, but have you encountered an issue where the Model 2 emulator crashes when attempting to change the analog controls? I have a Logitech wheel and am unable to map the controls to it as the emu crashes immediately upon trying to change any analog setting. I know it's not the ROM as I've tried several and it happens with every ROM that has the analog option.

I have the same issue, looking on the arcadecontrols forum people are suggesting it's due to multiple usb devices or controllers being plugged in, if you unplug everything to set the controls and then put them back after it should work? I'd try it but i've got 5 other controllers plugged in and am fed up of windows changing the order.

I've read that also about the multiple controllers. I did unplug just my analog devices - U360 stick, flight stick, trackball, and spinner. When I did that, suddenly the Logitech wheel appeared but not the accelerator or brake pedals so I thought I was making at least some progress and I saved that configuration. But when I plugged the analog devices back in, the wheel setting was gone and I'm back to the original issue. I may try unplugging everything to see if that works. I read that MAME now has some support for Model 2 ROMs and in fact I was able to load up Indy 500 in MAME and it ran. But the graphics are bad and it's not really playable. But I'm running MAME 0.239 so maybe I'll load up .0252 and see if it's any better, but I suspect it probably isn't.

As far as Windows changing the controller order, I've only found that to be an issue in MAME and I set up a file with stable controller IDs and it solved that problem. It does take a bit of work but totally worth it.

hi folks, whats the definitive way to exit the emulator back into bb/lb via the LB exit script etc?  I'm getting mixed results

I was hoping this would let me control Gunblade and Virtua Cop 1&2 with the DualShock 4, but no dice. Playing these games with the mouse isn't great so if someone has any idea how to do to play with the PS4's controller, I'm all ears.

Plus strangely enough, it caused Daytona USA to the MAXX (daytonam.zip) to not start anymore over here...

On 3/4/2023 at 9:23 AM, Headrush69 said:

If you do in the future, letting Demulshooter handle the guns is the way to go. Simple to start as an additional app in LB.

Does using Demulshooter change the calibration work that went into this project, or will that stay even when you turn off the raw input in the emulator ini?

This is so weird, from one day to the next my gun does not do anything in sega model 2 games.  I can insert coin and start, but can't choose any stage stages in Virtua Cop 1 and 2 for example.  And the gun does work as it works with a whole bunch of lightgun games including model 3 which is also using your pre-configged files.  It seems that everything went south when I added sega model 2 platform under manage emulators in Launchbox, and so I clicked on associated platforms under my Mame Lightgun emulator and added sega model 2.  I also did try to manually calibrate a game in that Mame emulator and as near as I can tell this is the point where it stopped working.  Except I have no clue what one has to do with the other.  Could it be that Gun ID's have been swapped and I need to input the changed values somewhere in the sega model 2 ini?  Because this occured in mame where it used to be GUN 6, but now it was GUN 4.  I also once again downloaded the files here and copied them once more into the Sega Model 2 dir, but still no success.  Thanks for the help.

 

EDIT: Other non light gun games for model 2 work fine such as Sega Rally.

Edited September 27, 2023 by Morris Schaffer

1 issue i found is that Wave runner xinput file automataclly turns to the right at all times and cannot be corrected. 

Other than that what i have played worked phenomenally and i appreciate this. it was an easyt setup.