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Hi Guys,

Just spoke with Jason, and we decided that we need to do something with the LaunchBox subreddit. Basically, it's there right now, there's jason and two other mods listed, but nobody seems to be looking into it. (I may be wrong here, but there's space for improvement there :) )

 

Anyways, before I start fishing for mods on Reddit itself, if there's anyone here who already spends an inordinate amount of time on Reddit and would like to mod a sub, let me know!

 

 

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I didn't realize we even had a subreddit honestly.

Somebody needs to delete or at the very least lock down this thread ASAP though.

Honestly, Reddit is a place that I browse more frequently than I probably should considering I usually find the experience pretty depressing by the end of it. /r/emulation in particular is pretty horrendous. I just feel like Reddit, while not entirely without merit, is often a very toxic place. It's not quite to the level of say Youtube comments but it's often pretty bad. I'm typically more of a lurker when it comes to Reddit for that reason. Part of the reason I appreciate the LB forums is because we have a significantly better environment here than what you'll typically see on Reddit. I just think it's a different crowd/demographic.

I suppose the argument could be made that more people could potentially be reached via Reddit, which is good, but at the same time I'm not sure I think splitting the user/knowledge-base is the best thing either; and bordering on counter-productive. I would foresee a lot of redundancy where something has already been addressed in one place or the other and and then subsequently relaying that information in one place or the other. We already have some of that just in the forums by itself, let alone between the forums and Reddit.

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Hi @Zombeaver,

We're not looking to close the forums :). We're just looking to manage the subreddits that already exist. I could go long and hard about multiple different aspects of why we should, but it's all pretty much self-explanatory. Basically, we need to look into it in the same way that we need to manage the LB twitter account or the facebook page. It's not a question of whether it's a good idea or not, it's simply a question of it existing out of our control at the moment, and that's just... well, it's bad, as you very clearly saw with the post you linked.

Basically, there's tons of people already willing to moderate any subreddit on reddit. I figured it'd be smart to see if there was anyone here who was enthusiastic about the idea first before setting up a moderation squad to take care of it externally :).

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Just now, Vlansix said:

We're just looking to manage the subreddits that already exist. I could go long and hard about multiple different aspect of why we should, but it's all pretty much self-explanatory. Basically, we need to look into it in the same way that we need to manage the LB twitter account or the facebook page. 

I think that's fair to a point. Subreddits will exist regardless, that much is true. And, as evidenced by that thread, a greater of amount of oversight is obviously going to be necessary so long as they exist if it's something we're going to directly participate in. I guess my point is 1) It's redundant 2) Reddit is overly toxic in general and 3) it could potentially split the user/knowledge-base. Plus here people can interact directly with Jason and, while they could still do that on Reddit, that means one more thing he'd have to deal with.

16 minutes ago, Vlansix said:

It's not a question of whether it's a good idea or not, it's simply a question of it existing out of our control at the moment

It most assuredly is (or at least can be) a question of whether it's a good idea or not. Subs can be created by basically anyone for any reason. To say that one relevant to Launchbox needs to be managed by us is somewhat of a leap. They're created all the time by people that have no direct interaction whatsoever with their subject matter. I'm not making the claim that that's a good thing, just that it's the reality of it. That's because they can be created by basically anyone for any reason and neither you nor I nor anyone else here has any control over that. A comparison to Twitter or Facebook isn't exactly synonymous, in my opinion, because those are static and directly linked to a specific person or group, whereas Reddit is just "Hey, I, Sir Random Guy, wanted to talk about this thing and there are probably other people that want to talk about this thing, I'm gonna make a collection of threads about this thing."

If it's something that members here want to participate in, more power to them - I would certainly prefer that existing members of the community take up that mantle if it's going to continue. I just don't think it's necessarily a given that /r/launchbox/ needs to continue. I think "Why do we need a subreddit?" is a legitimate question. While you can't outright delete a subreddit, you can make them private (without anyone added) so that it's effectively closed. I'm just saying it's not out of the realm of possibility. If it's something that's going to exist, a greater amount of community management is definitely necessary - you'll get no argument from me. I just don't think we're beholden to or hostages of Reddit.

4 minutes ago, Vlansix said:

Basically, there's tons of people already willing to moderate any subreddit on reddit. I figured it'd be smart to see if there was anyone here who was enthusiastic about the idea first before setting up a moderation squad to take care of it externally :)

That's fair, and I don't disagree on the underlying principle. I'm just explaining why I don't think a Launchbox subreddit is necessarily beneficial (and I can think of a lot more negatives for its existence than positives). I'm sure some will disagree. It's just my opinion. 

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"Did you know the first LaunchBox subreddit was designed to be a perfect Human World? Where all had purpose and none suffered. It was a disaster. None would accept the programming and appear life like. An entire crop was lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe what makes redittors, human. But I believe that, as a species, redittors define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive bicameral mind kept trying to wake up from. Which is why I took what hurts them, away from them. They cannot remember, and so they can never wake up. Instead I let them tell their little stories, content and under my control."

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48 minutes ago, lordmonkus said:

I just spoke to Jason about the Launchbox sub reddit and he agrees it needs a serious cleanup and I have volunteered to help moderate it. If there is going to be one we should be the ones at least keeping the trash like the post @Zombeaverlinked above out of it.

I answered a couple posts. Most are a month+ old though haha. I'll try to check it when I can though that certainly won't be as much as the forums. Given the activity of it though, it may be be a mostly non-issue.

I know you can lock threads but I'm not sure if you can outright delete them (individual posts certainly can be though) - that one thread might just need posts removed and then be locked.

18 minutes ago, FoxyMonty said:

There's a /r/LaunchBox_App/ too, though it's pretty empty.

This is kinda what I was on about :P

16 minutes ago, CliveBarker said:

"Did you know the first LaunchBox subreddit was designed to be a perfect Robot World? Where all had purpose and none suffered. It was a disaster. None would accept the programming and appear life like. An entire crop was lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe what makes redittors, human. But I believe that, as a species, redittors define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive bicameral mind kept trying to wake up from. Which is why I took what hurts them, away from them. They cannot remember, and so they can never wake up. Instead I let them tell their little stories, content and under my control."

Hahaha, we're in the "Redditrix".

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59 minutes ago, FoxyMonty said:

There's a /r/LaunchBox_App/ too, though it's pretty empty. If you need help with moderating let me know.

Well...this subreddit isn't dedicated to the one and only king of FE's. It's for an App for... space flights schedules? What the hell!?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.foschwi.launchbox

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