dov_EL Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) In my Bartop I used a Baytrail Mini PC with 2 GB ram for two years with Launchbox . Work amazing with Nes, Snes, Genesis , Master System , Turbo Grafx , TG CD ROM and MAME . With Mame I could never use HLSL filters, but I found a mask that does not regret the HLSL filters and With retroarch i use Shaders lite and rock! After making a subscription to Emumovies, I have also downloaded the videos . As long as I add video for 3 platforms, my old Baytrail still holds very well, but if I put videos on all platforms, then Ram's lack of feel So I decided to change PC, and I ordered a Mini PC with Apollo Lake n4200host immaginicertificity.com My choice fell on Beelink ap42uploadcertificity.com Brand: Beelink Model: AP42 Type: Mini PC System: Windows 10 CPU: Intel Pentium N4200 Core: Quad Core GPU: Intel HD Graphic 505RAM: 4 gb Type: DDR3 ROM: 64GInside Slot for SSD 42mm Every time I bought something from China, I always had to wait 1 month before arriving in Italy. I hope this will arrive soon, I have selected DHL (EU) Who knows with this new hardware where I can push with the emulation, who knows if I can enable MAME's HLSL filters. Surely with 4gb of RAM, launchbox will take a bit of breath:;) Edited April 22, 2017 by dovella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 You won't be able to use HLSL or any shaders in Mame (standalone), you will need a dedicated GPU to use them. But in Retroarch you should be able to use the lighter weight shaders like CRT-Pi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov_EL Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 1 minute ago, lordmonkus said: You won't be able to use HLSL or any shaders in Mame (standalone), you will need a dedicated GPU to use them. But in Retroarch you should be able to use the lighter weight shaders like CRT-Pi. Yep , Hyllian Fast, and CRT-pi work amazing , Now this is Apollo Lake , see benchmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov_EL Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 This is Gpu https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2905/hd-graphics-500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentaiBrad Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Thank you for posting about a low spec machine that is running LaunchBox or Big Box well enough with tempered expectations. After the... conversation that came up the other day, it made me really smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov_EL Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Im action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov_EL Posted April 25, 2017 Author Share Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) In short, a new experiment will be launched with a friend, very experienced in creating Bartop hostare immaginicertificity.com Nanobartop This photo was made with a multigame Chinese card, which has a bad result. So I told my friend to make one with Mini PC and LaunchBox. Monitor is 10 inc ( HDMI/VGA) . host imagecertificity.com For this NANO Bartop, I chose a Mini PC Cherrytrail CPU Intel Atom x5-Z8350 Processor (2M Cache, up to 1.84 GHz) Gpu Intel HD Graphics OS Windows10 OS RAM DDR3 2GB/ HD 32GB 1000Mbps LAN Bluetooth 4.0 WIFI IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n 2.4G+5.8G As soon as the work begins, I'll show you a video Edited April 25, 2017 by dovella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov_EL Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 Well Beelink Ap42 He came to my house. This mini PC is amazing , Really very different from mini PC baytrail and Cherrytrail , Even the all-aluminum manufacturing is exceptional, as well as the very fast Samsung internal memory and Apollo Lake which does not make you feel the lack of a desktop PC. What works excellent by default is BigBox FULL (work perfect with all Eye Candy ) Retroarch 64 bit (Nes,Snes ,Genesis,PcEngine,PCECDROM,MasterSystem etc) Mame 64 bit Model 2 Sega (Nebula ) Epsxe Playstation --------------------- What still does not work well with the default parameters Dolphin ( 70 to 100% framerate , up and down) Epcsx2 (like dolphin , 70 to 100 , 70 to 100 ) I did not have time to try the other things yet. I would like to try reincast from retroarch, or NullDC for dremcast On youtube I saw videos where a lot of people were running PS2, Dreamcast very well with Cpu Cherrytrail which is much lower than Apollo Lake, so you have to find the right setting , Plug in etc. Do you have any questions ? Suggestions what to try and? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Does Intel HD graphics support Vulkan is so try switching Dolphin to it and see if it improves anything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) Did some checking Intel HD and Iris series 500 /600 do support Vulkan since February 2017 Edited May 3, 2017 by DOS76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Just now, DOS76 said: Does Intel HD graphics support Vulkan is so try switching Dolphin to it and see if it improves anything Beat me to it!! I was going to suggest the same thing there, i use the ishiruka branch and get much better performance on that vs vanilla dolphin, (mmmm vanilla dolphin ) admittedly thats on a dedicated gpu but gains are gains right, so i would assume as its such a new intel chip that vulkan would be supported and you may see better performance there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 (edited) I don't use the Ishiruka build (which could also aid in your performance) but on the latest beta version of Dolphin I see pretty solid performance increases especially on Metroid games when using Vulkan Edited May 3, 2017 by DOS76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Yeah i only mention the Ishiruka build because it caters to older hardware than the official release does, so older hardware generally means less powerful hardware also. So newer low powered machines should also benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov_EL Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 Thank You ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov_EL Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 Dolphin work AMAZING with Vulkan , but ... audio not work fine Ishiruka build ( ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov_EL Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 Wait a moment Vulkan and DX12 have same performance. Very different is DX 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yeah I don't think I've ever tried DX12 in Dolphin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dov_EL Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, DOS76 said: Yeah I don't think I've ever tried DX12 in Dolphin Yep , Last version have DX12 experimental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lufeig Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 dovella, could please confirm if dolphin ishiiruka dx12 works full speed on the n4200 mini pc you acquired? I have a z8300 mini pc, but it is still not enough to play mario kart double dash decently (35 ~ 45 fps). I'm planning to buy a n4200 mini pc if it works fine with dolphin thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gachmuret Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Hi there, @dovella @lufeig I also plan to buy a notebook with Intel N4200 and 4 gig of RAM... would that be enough to play Wii reasonly fluent on Ishiruka fork? Thx for your advice and help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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