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In my Bartop I used a Baytrail Mini PC with 2 GB ram for two years with Launchbox . 
Work amazing with 
Nes, Snes, Genesis , Master System , Turbo Grafx , TG CD ROM and MAME . 

With Mame I could never use HLSL filters, but I found a mask that does not regret the HLSL filters and With retroarch i use Shaders lite and rock! :) 

After making a subscription to Emumovies, I have also downloaded the videos . 
As long as I add video for 3 platforms, my old Baytrail still holds very well, but if I put videos on all platforms, then Ram's lack of feel

So I decided to change PC, and I ordered a Mini PC with Apollo Lake n4200

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My choice fell on Beelink ap42

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Brand: Beelink 
Model: AP42 
Type: Mini PC 
System: Windows 10 
CPU: Intel Pentium N4200  Core: Quad Core 
GPU: Intel HD Graphic 505
RAM: 4 gb Type: DDR3 
ROM: 64G

Inside Slot for SSD 42mm

Every time I bought something from China, I always had to wait 1 month before arriving in Italy.
I hope this will arrive soon, I have selected DHL (EU)

Who knows with this new hardware where I can push with the emulation, who knows if I can enable MAME's HLSL filters.
Surely with 4gb of RAM, launchbox will take a bit of breath:;)

 

 

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You won't be able to use HLSL or any shaders in Mame (standalone), you will need a dedicated GPU to use them. But in Retroarch you should be able to use the lighter weight shaders like CRT-Pi.

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1 minute ago, lordmonkus said:

You won't be able to use HLSL or any shaders in Mame (standalone), you will need a dedicated GPU to use them. But in Retroarch you should be able to use the lighter weight shaders like CRT-Pi.

Yep ,  Hyllian Fast, and CRT-pi work amazing , 

Now this is Apollo Lake  , see benchmark
 

 

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Thank you for posting about a low spec machine that is running LaunchBox or Big Box well enough with tempered expectations. ;) After the... conversation that came up the other day, it made me really smile.

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In short, a new experiment will be launched with a friend, very experienced in creating Bartop

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Nanobartop 

This photo was made with a multigame Chinese card, which has a bad result. So I told my friend to make one with Mini PC and LaunchBox.

Monitor is 10 inc ( HDMI/VGA) . 

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For this NANO Bartop, I chose a Mini PC Cherrytrail

CPU Intel Atom x5-Z8350 Processor (2M Cache, up to 1.84 GHz)

Gpu Intel HD Graphics

OS Windows10 OS
RAM DDR3 2GB/
HD 32GB 1000Mbps
LAN Bluetooth 4.0 WIFI IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n 2.4G+5.8G 

 

As soon as the work begins, I'll show you a video ;)

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Well Beelink Ap42 He came to my house.

This mini PC is amazing , Really very different from mini PC baytrail and Cherrytrail , Even the all-aluminum manufacturing is exceptional, as well as the very fast Samsung internal memory and Apollo Lake which does not make you feel the lack of a desktop PC.

What works excellent by default is
BigBox FULL (work perfect with all Eye Candy ) 

Retroarch 64 bit (Nes,Snes ,Genesis,PcEngine,PCECDROM,MasterSystem etc) 
Mame 64 bit 

Model 2 Sega (Nebula ) 

Epsxe Playstation

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What still does not work well with the default parameters

Dolphin  ( 70 to 100% framerate , up and down) 

Epcsx2  (like dolphin , 70 to 100 , 70 to 100 ) 

I did not have time to try the other things yet. I would like to try reincast from retroarch, or NullDC for dremcast

On youtube I saw videos where a lot of people were running PS2, Dreamcast very well with Cpu Cherrytrail which is much lower than Apollo Lake, so you have to find the right  setting , Plug in etc.

Do you have any questions ? Suggestions what to try and?

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Does Intel HD graphics support Vulkan is so try switching Dolphin to it and see if it improves anything

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Did some checking Intel HD and Iris series 500 /600 do support Vulkan since February 2017

 

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Just now, DOS76 said:

Does Intel HD graphics support Vulkan is so try switching Dolphin to it and see if it improves anything

Beat me to it!! I was going to suggest the same thing there, i use the ishiruka branch and get much better performance on that vs vanilla dolphin, (mmmm vanilla dolphin :))  admittedly thats on a dedicated gpu but gains are gains right, so i would assume as its such a new intel chip that vulkan would be supported and you may see better performance there.

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I don't use the Ishiruka build (which could also aid in your performance) but on the latest beta version of Dolphin I see pretty solid performance increases especially on Metroid games when using Vulkan

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Yeah i only mention the Ishiruka build because it caters to older hardware than the official release does, so older hardware generally means less powerful hardware also. So newer low powered machines should also benefit.

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Dolphin work AMAZING with Vulkan , but ... audio not work fine :( Ishiruka build ( ) 

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Wait a moment

Vulkan and DX12 have same performance. 
Very different is DX 11 

 

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Yeah I don't think I've ever tried DX12 in Dolphin

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4 minutes ago, DOS76 said:

Yeah I don't think I've ever tried DX12 in Dolphin

Yep , Last version have DX12 experimental :)

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dovella, could please confirm if dolphin ishiiruka dx12 works full speed on the n4200 mini pc you acquired?

 

I have a z8300 mini pc, but it is still not enough to play mario kart double dash decently (35 ~ 45 fps).

 

I'm planning to buy a n4200 mini pc if it works fine with dolphin

 

thanks!

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Hi there,

@dovella @lufeig 

I also plan to buy a notebook with Intel N4200 and 4 gig of RAM... would that be enough to play Wii reasonly fluent on Ishiruka fork?

Thx for your advice and help!

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