LaunchBox 13.20 - Beta Thread

[Undertherainbow]

On 3/5/2025 at 4:56 PM, faeran said:

For people wanting to follow the Big Box freezing issue can do so from its ticket here: 

https://launchbox.featurebase.app/p/known-issue-big-box-freezes-after-being-left-idle-on

Hey man. I didnt leave idle. In fact i closed it cleanly. And i was happy for once how fast it was. It launched instantly all videos loaded in instant. I played a game closed it down. That was 3 hours ago. Launched right now and BB is actually stuck in memory. Didnt close. So i closed it and launched again and now it wont start at all.

Its just stuck ,theme loaded but thats it. its unresponsive

 

P.S while stuck its using more and more memory every second. While i was writing this it took 500mb of system ram and its climbing. This time i right clicked on app in taskbar and closed. Loaded immediately. There is a problem somewhere 

 

P.P.S
I changed to Wmp now , because vlc was causing animations to skip frames and act all wonky. Maybe it will fix freezes as well. Will report if it doesnt. Media player fixed animations tho

I made report here along with video 

https://forums.launchbox-app.com/files/file/2115-community-theme-creator/page/32/?tab=comments#findComment-18647

 

Just for sake of information:

Cpu:Ryzen 9700X

Gpu:AMD 7800XT

Win11x64

Edited Thursday at 09:35 PM by Undertherainbow

[Undertherainbow]

It happened again. Just as i finished writing. Started playing game for 20 mins, just finished, exit and BB is stuck in memory again. But now i am using Wmp so that is not the problem

 

P.S

Happened 3rd time. This time i recorded.

Start BB, start game. Play for 10 mins. Finish exit game. exit BB, BB stuck in memory

I dont have freezes, BB works smooth. 

There is nothing to be seen on video tho. Everything was clean. Clean start, clean exit. I was playing a lot last months it wasnt happening before

 

 

Edited Thursday at 10:38 PM by Undertherainbow

[xX-Delirium-Xx]

On 3/5/2025 at 10:56 AM, faeran said:

For people wanting to follow the Big Box freezing issue can do so from its ticket here: 

https://launchbox.featurebase.app/p/known-issue-big-box-freezes-after-being-left-idle-on

my problem is not from leaving it idle the freezing happens randomly while im actively scrolling through my games.it just happen to me again after i just booted it up i scrolled for 10 seconds and it froze

[faeran]

On 3/6/2025 at 1:15 AM, p bizzy said:

Probably, but I like the relative pathing for portable use. But now after 13.19 it doesnt work, so im stuck on 13.18. I wonder if just the current working directory needs to be set since I did see some updates to the syntax for .NET9

Just to be clear here. We've tested relative pathing extensively and have so far found nothing wrong with it.

The issue you guys seem to have while related to relative pathing, there's definitely other environmental factors at play here that we've been unable to determine.

Just to give you an idea, relative pathing is used for everything by default, from all media locations, emulator locations, ROM locations (in some instances). If relative pathing was broken in the app, the entire app would stop becoming responsive and it would just be a blank bunch of text everywhere.

If anyone facing this kind of issue can send me their data folder that might be helpful.

[faeran]

15 hours ago, Undertherainbow said:

Hey man. I didnt leave idle. In fact i closed it cleanly. And i was happy for once how fast it was. It launched instantly all videos loaded in instant. I played a game closed it down. That was 3 hours ago. Launched right now and BB is actually stuck in memory. Didnt close. So i closed it and launched again and now it wont start at all.

Its just stuck ,theme loaded but thats it. its unresponsive

 

P.S while stuck its using more and more memory every second. While i was writing this it took 500mb of system ram and its climbing. This time i right clicked on app in taskbar and closed. Loaded immediately. There is a problem somewhere 

 

P.P.S
I changed to Wmp now , because vlc was causing animations to skip frames and act all wonky. Maybe it will fix freezes as well. Will report if it doesnt. Media player fixed animations tho

I made report here along with video 

https://forums.launchbox-app.com/files/file/2115-community-theme-creator/page/32/?tab=comments#findComment-18647

 

Just for sake of information:

Cpu:Ryzen 9700X

Gpu:AMD 7800XT

Win11x64

9 hours ago, xX-Delirium-Xx said:

my problem is not from leaving it idle the freezing happens randomly while im actively scrolling through my games.it just happen to me again after i just booted it up i scrolled for 10 seconds and it froze

Sorry guys, the ticket itself was not written correctly. While some people have reported leaving it idle, the truth is that it really is an insignificant factor. If Big Box if freezing for you, please leave feedback on the ticket with the requested information listed on the pinned comment.

I've updated the original ticket to reflect any new information we have.

[p bizzy]

8 minutes ago, faeran said:

Just to be clear here. We've tested relative pathing extensively and have so far found nothing wrong with it.

The issue you guys seem to have while related to relative pathing, there's definitely other environmental factors at play here that we've been unable to determine.

Just to give you an idea, relative pathing is used for everything by default, from all media locations, emulator locations, ROM locations (in some instances). If relative pathing was broken in the app, the entire app would stop becoming responsive and it would just be a blank bunch of text everywhere.

If anyone facing this kind of issue can send me their data folder that might be helpful.

Have you tried it with the roms or emulators going through a symbolic link? I am not the first to report that on this thread. It is useful for external HDD's that move between systems.

[Undertherainbow]

2 hours ago, faeran said:

Sorry guys, the ticket itself was not written correctly. While some people have reported leaving it idle, the truth is that it really is an insignificant factor. If Big Box if freezing for you, please leave feedback on the ticket with the requested information listed on the pinned comment.

I've updated the original ticket to reflect any new information we have.

Hey, i dont have crashes. But stuck in memory happens every time i exit BB after 20+mins of playing a game.

Sometimes its just BigBox.exe while other times its also LaunchBox.exe stuck in memory. 
I will have to resort to custom cmd to auto kill on exit.

 

Debug 2025-03-07 03-12-23 PM.zip

Edited Friday at 02:44 PM by Undertherainbow

[faeran]

16 minutes ago, Undertherainbow said:

Hey, i dont have crashes. But stuck in memory happens every time i exit BB after 20+mins of playing a game.

Sometimes its just BigBox.exe while other times its also LaunchBox.exe stuck in memory. 
I will have to resort to custom cmd to auto kill on exit.

 

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Can you go into LaunchBox, under Tools > Options > Data > Backups and turn off Automatically back up the LaunchBox XML data files

If that solves your problem, then the most likely issue is some kind of file lock and/or permission issue, where LaunchBox is trying to gain access to some files and the operating system is telling it "sorry it's not available right now".

[faeran]

2 hours ago, p bizzy said:

Have you tried it with the roms or emulators going through a symbolic link? I am not the first to report that on this thread. It is useful for external HDD's that move between systems.

I've tried many scenarios using symlinks, network drive locations, all sorts of relative paths, etc. Send me a PM and explain your exact scenario, why you are doing it the way you are, and what exactly you feel is happening.

Maybe we can troubleshoot to the source of the issue you are having, and we may be surprised where it leads us.

[Undertherainbow]

26 minutes ago, faeran said:

Can you go into LaunchBox, under Tools > Options > Data > Backups and turn off Automatically back up the LaunchBox XML data files

If that solves your problem, then the most likely issue is some kind of file lock and/or permission issue, where LaunchBox is trying to gain access to some files and the operating system is telling it "sorry it's not available right now".

That is already turned off for me.

But if have some special debug command that could help find out what is it doing after exit command, it could help.

[Undertherainbow]

Its no use. I am out of ideas what to try. I even went with clean instal of LB to a new folder and just moved images/videos/xml's and its still happening. Both LB.exe and BB.exe are stuck on memory. Easily Repeatable

 

[Joe35car]

So I see changes were made on importing Teknoparot games. I use to be able to just add a new game when released. No it wants to import all with xml? I have to delete all the games except the one I want. Why is it doing this?

[Drybonz]

3 hours ago, Undertherainbow said:

Its no use. I am out of ideas what to try. I even went with clean instal of LB to a new folder and just moved images/videos/xml's and its still happening. Both LB.exe and BB.exe are stuck on memory. Easily Repeatable

Yeah, I've been getting that too, as well as freezing on close with LB.

[arcademode]

Switched to WMP from VLC and that helped my newly developed freeze issue with this version.  I run RL in the background for most games but I'll test a couple that I launch directly with LB. Using VLC froze the ever living bejeezus out of BB for me, so it's nice that WMP seems stable for now.

[Undertherainbow]

Hello, i have been digging into this as far as i can with whats available.

And noticed one thing. BB and LB getting stuck in memory is a symptom of a much larger problem.

After killing exe from memory and using resource monitor i noticed that LB folder has stuck fonts into system memory and is occupied by svchost.

At this point i need to ask if someone has kept older updates to share? I deleted older versions

edit: apparently i cant even go back. It keeps enforcing new update 😕

EDIT2: This font issue even happens with standard shutdown of LB and i dont even use normal "default" theme.. 

Edited yesterday at 06:52 AM by Undertherainbow

[cenutrio351]

BB getting stuck in memory aswell for me. Launchbox 13.20 and default theme.

Thanks!.

[Fursphere]

I just had launchbox get stuck in memory on me.   I was modifying the 'parent' relationship on some playlists, and noticed the changes were not applying when hitting "ok".   Then I closed launchbox and it got stuck in memory.

So..  maybe this is a clue?   An operational to modify an XML is stuck trying to complete.   File lock maybe?

[wangstage]

When more than two game detail windows are opened simultaneously, if you move the individual windows a few times, the system will enter a frozen state. Please check this issue.