Lordmonkus Posted November 3, 2018 Author Share Posted November 3, 2018 10 hours ago, Rogerooo said: How does Launchbox handle the files of the roms that were renamed from the previous version? When importing will they be recognized or just don't get imported at all? Is there a database from were LB gets the information of the roms/games included in each rom set that needs to be updated? 10 hours ago, Rogerooo said: EDIT: I've found the Mame.xml file inside the Metadata folder, i guess that's the source LB uses for the MAME info. Not sure how up to date it is as I don't know which roms were renamed/added but i've imported everything anyway. This gets updated shortly after the new Mame goes live, there is currently no for the end user to know when it is updated but that is something on Jasons to-do list and even pick which version. Jason does update it the day of or the next day after the Mame release though. This is if you use the Mame specific importer of course, this doesn't apply if you are using the normal import wizard. 10 hours ago, Rogerooo said: About CHDs. Do i need to create a dummy zip for the ones that don't have an associated rom zip? I keep them in a sub-folder inside my roms folder (MAME\(roms) and MAME\CHD\(chds)), i've also set the path in the mame.ini and they load just fine in MAME but are there any issues regarding LB for keeping them separate? I wish I could answer your question about the CHDs, I don't use them myself. I don't know what games are CHD files only, I was under the impression that they were companion files to go with the actual chipset dumps and as long as the path for them is in the mame.ini file it's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I just want to add that Jason updates the main info from MAME rather quickly but certain dats and files aren't available right away and so it may have things added to what data you will get over a few day period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerooo Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I see, thank you for clarifying that. I'm on the LB's beta branch and the Mame.xml I mentioned earlier was indeed created today so I guess it's up to date with the MAME release. I've imported the set using the MAME Arcade Full Set wizard, however i noticed something odd. I was looking for some games to favorite and found out that for instance Asteroids was not imported. Searching in the mame.xml the files for that specific game are asteroid (parent), asteroid1, asteroid2 and asteroidb (clones), these files are on the mame set i've downloaded (split), however the game is not present on LB. I've imported the whole set without skipping any games and the clones were imported as additional apps however i can't find the parent game. Regarding the CHDs, i'm not sure if there are CHD exclusive games either, I think i've read somewhere that there are but i might be mistaken. I'll try to compare the chd folders and the zips to see if I find games that don't have a corresponding zip rom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerooo Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just re-imported the roms folder by dragging and dropping all the files into LB and using the regular wizard for the process. Since I have MAME as the emulator the mame metadata was fetched and the wizard prompted me to choose which files should be skipped or not. Imported everything, no skips and all the clones. As a test I did this with just Asteroids, since it was the game i noticed was missing, it was successfully imported and so i did it again for the whole set. Its now importing, it's taking it's time but seems to be a bit faster than the first import. Comparing the files on LB's wizard with the roms folder i noticed that 112 files weren't imported. I don't know for sure if there are any games in there but it looks like it just skipped some bios (and probably devices) which is fine as don't need them in LB anyway. If it helps to debug stuff out, here is the list of those files. Quote 3dobios.zip aceex2814.zip airlbios.zip aleck64.zip alg3do.zip alg_bios.zip allied.zip amclink.zip ar_bios.zip aristmk5.zip aristmk6.zip atarisy1.zip awbios.zip bubsys.zip ccfboxa.zip cd6809.zip cdibios.zip cedmag.zip chihiro.zip coh1000a.zip coh1000c.zip coh1000t.zip coh1000w.zip coh1001l.zip coh1002e.zip coh1002m.zip coh1002v.zip coh3002c.zip coh3002t.zip comg903d.zip comg905d.zip crysbios.zip ctsttape.zip cubo.zip decocass.zip eka_base.zip f355bios.zip f355dlx.zip galgbios.zip gkkey.zip gp_110.zip gq863.zip grfd2301.zip gts1.zip gundcb79.zip gundcb83.zip hikaru.zip hng64.zip hod2bios.zip hopper.zip hyperv2a.zip isgsm.zip iteagle.zip konamigv.zip konamigx.zip kontest.zip kviper.zip lindbios.zip llandert.zip macsbios.zip maxaflex.zip megaplay.zip megatech.zip naomi.zip naomi2.zip naomigd.zip ndcfboxa.zip neogeo.zip ngdup23a.zip ngdup23c.zip ngdup23e.zip nichidvd.zip nss.zip okean240t.zip pcorig.zip peivc006.zip peset001.zip peset004.zip peset012.zip peset022.zip peset038.zip peset100.zip peset117.zip pgm.zip playch10.zip pyson.zip qberttst.zip qbtrktst.zip sammymdl.zip sart3733.zip segasp.zip sentetst.zip sfcbox.zip shtzone.zip skns.zip stvbios.zip su2000.zip sys246.zip sys256.zip sys573.zip taitotz.zip tcfboxa.zip test420.zip tfupdate.zip tourvis.zip triforce.zip tst_galx.zip tst_invd.zip v4bios.zip wms.zip wmsa.zip wmsb.zip As for the CHDs, this re-import scanned for the following files. I don't know if they are CHD exclusive games or not (some of them aren't, like Primal Rage 2 for instance) but LB did single them out. From the 518 sub-folders/games LB recognized 135. Quote Atronic SetUp/Clear Chips atronic\atronic.chd BiKiNikko - Okinawa de Ippai Shichaimashita bikiniko\bikiniko.chd BioFreaks biofreak\biofreak.chd Battle Gear batlgear\batlgear.chd Alien: The Arcade Medal Edition alien\alien.chd Arctic Thunder arctthnd\arctthnd.chd Area 51 area51\area51.chd Area 51 area51\area51t.chd Area 51 / Maximum Force Duo v2.0 area51mx\area51mx.chd Bust a Move 2 - Dance Tengoku Mix bam2\bam2.chd NFL Blitz blitz\blitz.chd NFL Blitz '99 blitz99\blitz99.chd NFL Blitz '99 blitz99\blitz99a.chd NFL Blitz 2000 Gold Edition blitz2k\blitz2k.chd Bloody Roar 3 bldyr3b\bldyr3b.chd Bounty Hunter bntyhunt\bntyhunt.chd Beat the Champ btchamp\btchamp.chd California Chase calchase\calchase.chd California Speed calspeed\calspeed.chd CarnEvil carnevil\carnevil.chd Cart Fury cartfury\cartfury.chd Cliff Hanger cliffhgr\cliffhgr.chd Candy Puzzle cndypuzl\cndypuzl.chd Cobra Command cobra\cobra.chd Come On Baby comebaby\comebaby.chd Super CD Dai8dan Mahjong Hanafuda Cosplay Tengoku csplayh1\csplayh1.chd Mahjong Hanafuda Cosplay Tengoku 5 csplayh5\csplayh5.chd Cosplay Tengoku 7 - Super Kogal Ranking csplayh7\csplayh7.chd Cube Quest cubeqst\cubeqst.chd Donkey Kong Banana Kingdom dkbanana\dkbanana.chd Eggs Playing Chicken eggsplc\eggsplc.chd Pharaoh's Treasure ep_pharo\ep_pharo.chd Ez2dancer 2nd Move ez2d2m\ez2d2m.chd Fate: Unlimited Codes fateulc\fateulcb.chd Fire Fox firefox\firefox.chd Flip Maze flipmaze\flipmaze.chd Fuudol fuudol\fuudol.chd GameCristal gamecstl\gamecstl.chd GameCristal gamecstl\gamecst2.chd 99 Bottles of Beer gammagic\99bottles.chd Game Magic gammagic\gammagic.chd Gauntlet Dark Legacy gauntdl\gauntdl.chd Gauntlet Legends gauntleg\gauntleg.chd Go By RC gobyrc\gobyrc.chd RC De Go gobyrc\rcdego.chd Harem Challenge haremchl\haremchl.chd Heat of Eleven '98 heatof11\heatof11.chd Host Invaders hostinv\hostinv.chd Hyperdrive hyprdriv\hyprdriv.chd Judge Dredd jdredd\jdreddb.chd Junai - Manatsu no First Kiss junai\junai.chd Junai 2 - White Love Story junai2\junai2.chd Dead Eye kdeadeye\kdeadeye.chd Killer Instinct kinst\kinst.chd Killer Instinct 2 kinst2\kinst2.chd Kollon kollon\kollon.chd Kollon kollon\kollonc.chd Landing High Japan landhigh\landhigh.chd Landing High Japan landhigh\landhigha.chd Laser Strixx 2 lasstixx\lasstixx.chd Laser Quiz Italy lsrquiz\lsrquiz.chd Laser Quiz 2 Italy lsrquiz2\lsrquiz2.chd Mace: The Dark Age mace\mace.chd Mace: The Dark Age mace\macea.chd M.A.C.H. 3 mach3\mach3.chd Mahjong Oh mahjngoh\mahjngoh.chd Maximum Force v1.05 maxforce\maxforce.chd Magic Premium mgprem11\mgprem11.chd Mahjong Mania - Kairakukan e Youkoso mjmania\mjmania.chd Skins Game mwskins\mwskins.chd Skins Game mwskins\mwskinsa.chd Skins Game Tournament Edition mwskins\mwskinst.chd Nagano Winter Olympics '98 nagano98\nagano98.chd NBA Showtime / NFL Blitz 2000 nbanfl\nbanfl.chd NBA Showtime: NBA on NBC nbashowt\nbashowt.chd Night Raid nightrai\nightrai.chd Odeon Twister 2 odeontw2\odeontw2.chd Offroad Thunder offrthnd\offrthnd.chd Orbatak orbatak\orbatak.chd Otenami Haiken Final otenamhf\otenamhf.chd Otenami Haiken otenamih\otenamih.chd Otenki Kororin otenki\otenki.chd Otomedius otomedius\otomedius.chd Pingu's Ice Block pingu\pingu.chd Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu '96 powyak96\powyak96.chd ParaParaParadise 2nd Mix ppp2nd\ppp2nd.chd Primal Rage 2 primrag2\primrag2.chd P's Attack psattack\psattack.chd Psyvariar -Medium Unit- psyvaria\psyvaria.chd Psyvariar -Revision- psyvarrv\psyvarrv.chd Power Shovel ni Norou!! - Power Shovel Simulator pwrshovl\pwrshovl.chd Raizin Ping Pong raizpin\raizpin.chd Ray Crisis raycris\raycris.chd Road Blaster rblaster\rblaster.chd Road Burners roadburn\roadburn.chd Rise of the Robots rotr\rotr.chd Ring Riders rriders\rriders.chd Savage Quest savquest\savquest.chd San Francisco Rush 2049 sf2049\sf2049.chd San Francisco Rush 2049: Special Edition sf2049\sf2049se.chd San Francisco Rush 2049: Tournament Edition sf2049\sf2049te.chd San Francisco Rush 2049: Tournament Edition Unlocked sf2049\sf2049tea.chd San Francisco Rush sfrush\sfrush.chd San Francisco Rush: The Rock sfrushrk\sfrushrk.chd Shanghai Shoryu Sairin shanghss\shanghss.chd Shikigami no Shiro shikigam\shikigam.chd Shikigami no Shiro - internal build shikigama\shikigama.chd Space Invaders Anniversary sianniv\sianniv.chd Simpsons Bowling simpbowl\simpbowl.chd Soutenryu soutenry\soutenry.chd Speed Driver speeddrv\speeddrv.chd Super Puzzle Bobble spuzbobl\spuzbobl.chd Tenth Degree tenthdeg\tenthdeg.chd The Nanpa thenanpa\thenanpa.chd Tokyo Cop tokyocop\tokyocopk.chd Tokyo Cop tokyocop\tokyocop.chd Tokyo Cop tokyocop\tokyocopi.chd Gaelco Championship Tuning Race tuningrc\tuningrc.chd Turret Tower turrett\turrett.chd Usagi usagi\usagi.chd Vapor TRX vaportrx\vaportrx.chd Us vs. Them usvsthem\usvsthem.chd Vicious Circle vcircle\vcircle.chd Star Trek: Voyager voyager\voyagers.chd Star Trek: Voyager voyager\voyager.chd War: The Final Assault warfa\warfaa.chd War: The Final Assault warfa\warfa.chd Stunt Typhoon Plus styphp\styphp.chd Wedding Rhapsody weddingr\weddingr.chd Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey wg3dh\wg3dh.chd XII Stag xiistag\xiistag.chd Zoids Infinity zoidsinf\zoidsinf.chd Zoku Otenamihaiken zokuoten\zokuoten.chd Zoofari zoofari\zoofari.chd Zooo zooo\zooo.chd Sorry about the double post but since this an extensive post i figured its better for organization. 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neil9000 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 15 hours ago, Rogerooo said: I see, thank you for clarifying that. I'm on the LB's beta branch and the Mame.xml I mentioned earlier was indeed created today so I guess it's up to date with the MAME release. I've imported the set using the MAME Arcade Full Set wizard, however i noticed something odd. I was looking for some games to favorite and found out that for instance Asteroids was not imported. Searching in the mame.xml the files for that specific game are asteroid (parent), asteroid1, asteroid2 and asteroidb (clones), these files are on the mame set i've downloaded (split), however the game is not present on LB. I've imported the whole set without skipping any games and the clones were imported as additional apps however i can't find the parent game. Regarding the CHDs, i'm not sure if there are CHD exclusive games either, I think i've read somewhere that there are but i might be mistaken. I'll try to compare the chd folders and the zips to see if I find games that don't have a corresponding zip rom. Asteroids imported just fine for me using the MAME fullset importer via tools/import/mame fullset importer. Its also worth mentioning that the MAME fullset importer isnt strictly speaking importing the games, it assumes you have a fullset as that is what the wizard is for and simply adds all the working games filenames to the Arcade.xml, its not actually checking weather you have the roms or not as it is expected that you do. It relies on MAME knowing the location of your rom folder to load the games, it simply passes the filename you requested to MAME, and MAME then loads the game from the rom folder you specified in the mame.ini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerooo Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Oddly enough it did import for me too when I imported my previous set a few months back (it was .173 i think). I downloaded the whole set and there are no missing roms. It must have been something about the Asteroids game, either i deleted it by mistake (don't recall doing so but it could've happen) or something else. The game did import just fine after manually dragging it into LB so no problem there. Also, after re-importing all files again just to make sure, only 3 more games were added (99 Bottles of Beer, RC De Go, Skins Game Tournament Edition) these games are in CHD format, I guess this means the set was fully imported. I'm now importing the software lists systems. I know they aren't yet supported and Jason is working on it but as a solution I'm using the Files.xml (Metadata folder) to specify the Platform/Game/File names for the systems, the information comes from the datfiles, with a little Notepad ++ macro i'm able to port the information with the correct tags and the games are all recognized by LB. I can provide you my Files.xml when i'm done importing everything if you guys want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Rogerooo said: It must have been something about the Asteroids game, either i deleted it by mistake (don't recall doing so but it could've happen) or something else. It might be possible it was under another name, clone or something. I don't know of any clone names that it could be under at all, i'm just saying it might be a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerooo Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Yes that's also a possibility. But if that was the case wouldn't LB not import it again when I did it manually? Because the game supposedly was already in the database, and that's why it just imported those 3 games, everything else was already there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerooo Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Hey, sorry to bother again.? I've downloaded a romset of 3DO games but the files don't follow the MAME naming convention, is it possible to load the game without renaming the roms or do I need to rename them? If so, is there an easy method to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I don't think MAME works properly with 3DO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerooo Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 What about the RA core? Is it good or a standalone emulator is a better option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 The RA core is fine I think I've got the games and I've gotten them running but never really spent much time playing any of the games so can't really say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Rogerooo said: What about the RA core? Is it good or a standalone emulator is a better option? Its not bad by any means. But there is absolutely no reason to use it over and above MAME. Im a retroarch user for as much as i can, but not for that. Each to there own though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 38 minutes ago, Rogerooo said: Hey, sorry to bother again.? I've downloaded a romset of 3DO games but the files don't follow the MAME naming convention, is it possible to load the game without renaming the roms or do I need to rename them? If so, is there an easy method to do it? For 3DO use the RA core for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerooo Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 @DOS76 @Lordmonkus Cool, thanks for the help. I'll probably not play much of it either but it's cool to have another system to look at in BigBox @neil9000 My issue with Mame in this case is just the filenames, the roms won't load. After getting used to how mame works and loads its systems, etc. I became a fan of it. The huge library of machines available is great and the ability to use overlays/shaders is a nice plus (one of the main reasons why i also prefer RA over standalone). If there was a way to load the games bypassing the name check i would probably use it sometimes. The command line gives me this error message: Error reading input file: file not found Fatal error: Device CD-ROM Image load failed: Unspecified error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I think Neil completely misunderstood that you meant the 3DO core and not the MAME core over standalone MAME (either that or I'm completely confused by his post) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerooo Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) Oh, I see. Yes, there is no point in using Mame's RA core after having set up the standalone in LB. Which is not that hard either and is much more easier to configure the machines. Edited November 6, 2018 by Rogerooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil9000 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 22 minutes ago, DOS76 said: I think Neil completely misunderstood that you meant the 3DO core and not the MAME core over standalone MAME (either that or I'm completely confused by his post) i think maybe u are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatts4Life Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Are the steps for setting up MAME in the first post still working? I orinally setup my MAME system by putting MAME64.exe and all the files in a MAME folder and the roms in the roms folder inside the MAME folder. I then saw in the first post that I could put MAME in my emulators folder and the roms in my games folder inside LB. I then did the steps to create a MAME.ini and on the roms line pointed to my roms folder now. I tried a game that worked earlier and now it doesn't start up. This morning I found the 204 split file and I'm currently downloading that. I plan to start over by deleting MAME all together and starting fresh with the most current set. Am I able to follow the first post to setup the UI before moving on to LB, or do the roms need to be placed in the roms folder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 As long as you have an ini file that contains the correct path to the games you can have them in any location you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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