noiseordinance Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) I can’t imagine how this spec related. I wouldn’t call i5 4460 and i7 4770k with all SSD, 16gb Ram, GTX 970 “low end.” I see others reporting modest specs as well. I hope this is high on the fix list. Thanks! Edited August 19, 2018 by noiseordinance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 You have a better system than I do and I don't experience any lag issues so I would say your problem is elsewhere in your system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Carr Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, noiseordinance said: I can’t imagine how this spec related. I wouldn’t call i5 4460 and i7 4770k with all SSD, 16gb Ram, GTX 970 “low end.” I see others reporting modest specs as well. I hope this is high on the fix list. Thanks! Yeah, somehow it must be system-specific. I haven't pinpointed what causes it, but from my experience, the majority of systems do not have the issue, which is why it went under my radar for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Jason Carr said: Yeah, somehow it must be system-specific. I haven't pinpointed what causes it, but from my experience, the majority of systems do not have the issue, which is why it went under my radar for so long. Great to see some movement on this thread again, fingers crossed for a fix soon :) Yeh its definitely not specs related in terms of performance (i5 8600k, 16GB DDR4, NVME Pro ssd here) and I still see it, its likely specs related in terms of some other form of commonality between the niche of crew seeing this issue :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiseordinance Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Lordmonkus said: You have a better system than I do and I don't experience any lag issues so I would say your problem is elsewhere in your system. What controllers do you use out of curiosity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmonkus Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Wired Xbox 360 and Hori Fight Commander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetwistedblue Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Great to hear this is going to get some attention. For what it's worth, its likely this problem is more common than it appears as it has been undiagnosed until now. I for one would never have realised it was controller lag until I read deep into this thread in particular and compared to my keyboard. I would have assumed like most people that it must be because of driver issues/not updating windows/system not being a NASA computer/ridiculously poor optimisation of Big Box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbweiners Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, thetwistedblue said: Great to hear this is going to get some attention. For what it's worth, its likely this problem is more common than it appears as it has been undiagnosed until now. I for one would never have realised it was controller lag until I read deep into this thread in particular and compared to my keyboard. I would have assumed like most people that it must be because of driver issues/not updating windows/system not being a NASA computer/ridiculously poor optimisation of Big Box. I think @thetwistedblueis correct. I had no idea it was a controller issue until I saw this thread. I just thought it was the way BigBox performed. I have a G4560 Cpu, GTX 1050, and 8gb of ram. That's not a low end system, so I don't think that this only affects low end systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, thetwistedblue said: Great to hear this is going to get some attention. For what it's worth, its likely this problem is more common than it appears as it has been undiagnosed until now. I for one would never have realised it was controller lag until I read deep into this thread in particular and compared to my keyboard. I would have assumed like most people that it must be because of driver issues/not updating windows/system not being a NASA computer/ridiculously poor optimisation of Big Box. This is actually a good point! as per my earlier posts I didn't realise it was an issue either as my system is purely a media machine and gaming so only input was controllers and a logitech remote, it was only when I installed a Logitech wireless keyboard to use instead of remote desktop I suddenly became aware that it was actually a fault. Also didn't find anything on the forums initially so started my own thread only to be pointed to this thread so its quite probable that more ppl have the issue they just don't know it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Carr Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 My point was that it's not happening on the majority of systems, which has nothing to do with the reasons behind it... Regardless, I'm looking into it soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jason Carr said: My point was that it's not happening on the majority of systems, which has nothing to do with the reasons behind it... Regardless, I'm looking into it soon. No problems wasn't having a dig! I think the point he was trying to illustrate is it might actually be happening for a lot more users that just don't realise it, it might not be as niche as we think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetwistedblue Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rjay said: No problems wasn't having a dig! I think the point he was trying to illustrate is it might actually be happening for a lot more users that just don't realise it, it might not be as niche as we think Exactly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOS76 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 If you have a Pentium in your computer its a lower end system just to clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Carr Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 A new beta is out now (8.6-beta-1) that I'm hoping will fix this issue for people, though I can't be certain until you guys test. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetwistedblue Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Jason Carr said: A new beta is out now (8.6-beta-1) that I'm hoping will fix this issue for people, though I can't be certain until you guys test. Hi Jason, I think you might have fixed it. It is difficult for me to tell, because I ported my larger roms (wii, gamecube etc) onto a different drive today, which for some reason seemed to eliminate 90% of the xinput lag I was experiencing. However, I think I was still seeing lag after closing a game, compared to the keyboard. I've got 8.6 beta 1 up and running and I don't see any controller lag now. So.. maybe fixed in my instance? Thanks for your efforts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiseordinance Posted August 21, 2018 Author Share Posted August 21, 2018 I have a few hiccups when scrolling but way shorter duration and overall the controllers are more responsive. Awesome, thank you @Jason Carr!!! I was not expecting such a quick update, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Jason Carr said: A new beta is out now (8.6-beta-1) that I'm hoping will fix this issue for people, though I can't be certain until you guys test. Legend thanks @Jason Carr, have updated the system remotely but can't test until this evening but will be sure to drop some feedback once tested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Gave this a spin, it seems better/smoother but I am pretty sure I am still seeing the behaviour. I can scroll say 5 or so and then there is a pause, then scroll another handful and a pause. Doesn't appear when using up or down key on wireless KB. Anyone else tested from the thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noiseordinance Posted August 22, 2018 Author Share Posted August 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, Rjay said: Gave this a spin, it seems better/smoother but I am pretty sure I am still seeing the behaviour. I can scroll say 5 or so and then there is a pause, then scroll another handful and a pause. Doesn't appear when using up or down key on wireless KB. Anyone else tested from the thread? Yeah unfortunately I’m still getting frequent hangs, and just like in the videos I posted, the videos are still playing in the background as if it’s just not receiving controller input for a bit. Controller speed is definitely snappier on the beta, so that’s a plus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetwistedblue Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Tragically I can also confirm that the controller input lag has returned in earnest to my setup. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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