Nabizzles Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jason Carr said: I spoke with Tahlreth, the AetherSX2 developer tonight. I was as careful and polite as I could have possibly been, but unfortunately he has no interest in supporting frontends or allowing frontends to launch games in AetherSX2. He ended the conversation with "I might just make the activities private next update", suggesting that he is going to completely disable any chance of frontends launching games at all. So unfortunately that is bad news, but it is his choice if he does not want frontends to be able to launch games in AetherSX2. From what I can tell, his reasoning is that he wants users to use his user interface only, and does not want it to be hidden or bypassed by a frontend. So, for now, we have to give up on supporting AetherSX2. That's really unfortunate and short sighted... *Sigh* The UI of AetherSX2 is nothing to write home about and it'd be so nice to not have to look at it every time I want to play a game... Thanks for trying @Jason Carr Edited January 20, 2022 by Nabizzles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Jason Carr said: I spoke with Tahlreth, the AetherSX2 developer tonight. I was as careful and polite as I could have possibly been, but unfortunately he has no interest in supporting frontends or allowing frontends to launch games in AetherSX2. He ended the conversation with "I might just make the activities private next update", suggesting that he is going to completely disable any chance of frontends launching games at all. So unfortunately that is bad news, but it is his choice if he does not want frontends to be able to launch games in AetherSX2. From what I can tell, his reasoning is that he wants users to use his user interface only, and does not want it to be hidden or bypassed by a frontend. So, for now, we have to give up on supporting AetherSX2. that's unfortunate. That will end up hurting him in the long term, almost everyone uses emulators from beind a front end these days. I'd rather convenience than performance in most cases 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bundangdon Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 hours ago, Jason Carr said: I spoke with Tahlreth, the AetherSX2 developer tonight. I was as careful and polite as I could have possibly been, but unfortunately he has no interest in supporting frontends or allowing frontends to launch games in AetherSX2. He ended the conversation with "I might just make the activities private next update", suggesting that he is going to completely disable any chance of frontends launching games at all. So unfortunately that is bad news, but it is his choice if he does not want frontends to be able to launch games in AetherSX2. From what I can tell, his reasoning is that he wants users to use his user interface only, and does not want it to be hidden or bypassed by a frontend. So, for now, we have to give up on supporting AetherSX2. Wow, what a bummer. It's certainly his prerogative if he wants to go that route and I'm sure that's fine with the majority of the public. But in the long run it would certainly be nice if he allowed the *option* to those who'd rather use their own frontend such as LaunchBox. While the UI in AetherSX2 is decent enough, it's nothing special to look at and I'd much rather launch games through one UI instead of having to open separate programs each time. Anyways, Jason thanks a lot for the update and it was certainly worth the effort. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally68 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I got all working but c64.emu are we waiting for author to fix app? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiga326 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Hey is it possible to have support for the Nes.emu and MD.emu emulators? Whenever I try to launch a game using those emulators it takes me to the emulator main screen with a red message at the bottom saying "permission denied". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabiAle97 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Wow... I've been supporting Tahlreth from the beggining. Even defend him from some scammers showing false gameplays pressuming that was his emu... But this is bad... Selfish in some way. You can want the users use your interface... But you can't make them use it if they don't want to... That's a bad step backwards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiga326 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 hours ago, GabiAle97 said: Wow... I've been supporting Tahlreth from the beggining. Even defend him from some scammers showing false gameplays pressuming that was his emu... But this is bad... Selfish in some way. You can want the users use your interface... But you can't make them use it if they don't want to... That's a bad step backwards. I find front ends to be incredibly convenient myself and Aethersx2 is the only one I can't properly launch from launchbox (the others I can just use retroarch I guess) and it sucks that Tahlreth doesn't want to support front ends. But if it was from a developer stand point are there downsides to having emulators run through front ends? I'm still new to all of this and would like to think this decision isn't about arrogance and selfishness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabiAle97 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 35 minutes ago, Raiga326 said: I find front ends to be incredibly convenient myself and Aethersx2 is the only one I can't properly launch from launchbox (the others I can just use retroarch I guess) and it sucks that Tahlreth doesn't want to support front ends. But if it was from a developer stand point are there downsides to having emulators run through front ends? I'm still new to all of this and would like to think this decision isn't about arrogance and selfishness Well... In first hand, I don't see such a "point" nor "benefits" for not allowing frontends work with AetherSX2. Does not have compatibility issues, or performance impact, so... All we have left to think is that this is about arrogance and selfishness, i'm afraid... Really caught me hard that one, specially when I've been a sort of fan of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cineaste Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 PCSX2 eclipses AetherSX2 in any case. I will happily disregard PS2 emulation on Android. Has there ever been a dev advocating against front ends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testies Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 how can i download the android beta 2 app? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiga326 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 23 hours ago, GabiAle97 said: Well... In first hand, I don't see such a "point" nor "benefits" for not allowing frontends work with AetherSX2. Does not have compatibility issues, or performance impact, so... All we have left to think is that this is about arrogance and selfishness, i'm afraid... Really caught me hard that one, specially when I've been a sort of fan of him Man, that's messed up. I would have thought that the devs of these emulators would be trying to work together with the community to produce a better overall user experience for everyone. I guess there are some devs that's just out there for themselves and it's really twisted to think about it. 18 hours ago, Thornback said: PCSX2 eclipses AetherSX2 in any case. I will happily disregard PS2 emulation on Android. Has there ever been a dev advocating against front ends? The problem is that PCSX2 isn't on android, I wish the team behind PCSX2 made an android version just like Dolphin did so that way we wouldn't have to worry about this problem. Dolphin doesn't have a problem with supporting front ends but for some reason Tahlreth does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikone27 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 what are the latest versions? stable and beta? i got the download for 0.42 and i can't seem to use the mounted network storage on shield tv. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiga326 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, slikone27 said: what are the latest versions? stable and beta? i got the download for 0.42 and i can't seem to use the mounted network storage on shield tv. thanks! I believe beta 4(1.0} is the latest version, just go to the options menu and turn on "Update to beta releases" and "Check for updates at Start up" then close out of LaunchBox and reopen it and it'll update to the latest release. Sorry, I don't have a shield tv so I can't help with that 1 hour ago, testies said: how can i download the android beta 2 app? Same as above comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot60 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 hours ago, slikone27 said: what are the latest versions? stable and beta? i got the download for 0.42 and i can't seem to use the mounted network storage on shield tv. thanks! This is a known issue. Jason, along with basically all other Front-end Devs are trying to figure out a work-around for. As of right now there's no way to access network attached storage with not just front ends but a lot of apps in general thanks to the latest shield experience update (9.0). This SE adopted android 11 which puts a lot of new restrictions on storage. I suggest signing up for the latest Nvidia hot fixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testies Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Raiga326 said: I believe beta 4(1.0} is the latest version, just go to the options menu and turn on "Update to beta releases" and "Check for updates at Start up" then close out of LaunchBox and reopen it and it'll update to the latest release. Sorry, I don't have a shield tv so I can't help with that Same as above comment thanks, i updated to the beta but i still cant get launchbox to launch real 3do player. it just takes me to the 3do roms folder but doesnt play the game . im on the anbernic rg552 handheld on android 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikone27 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Buckshot60 said: This is a known issue. Jason, along with basically all other Front-end Devs are trying to figure out a work-around for. As of right now there's no way to access network attached storage with not just front ends but a lot of apps in general thanks to the latest shield experience update (9.0). This SE adopted android 11 which puts a lot of new restrictions on storage. I suggest signing up for the latest Nvidia hot fixes. Thanks all! When you say nvidia hot fixes you mean for the actual shield tv correct? i know they are trying to fix plex media server and several other issues which i assume also have network/usb storage issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshot60 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, slikone27 said: Thanks all! When you say nvidia hot fixes you mean for the actual shield tv correct? i know they are trying to fix plex media server and several other issues which i assume also have network/usb storage issues. Yes, hot fixes for the shield itself. You have to sign up for them and submit the serial number of your device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1972 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I have my mission for tomorrow 😁🍻 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally68 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I am using launch box latest beta and update with retroarch cores works great love it. My problem is lb reads usb drive retroarch does not if lb tells retroarch to look on usb works great. But lb does not do dosbox pure on retroarch and retroarch won’t read usb so I am stuck no dos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
space_plans Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) New LB Android user here - I just bought a new Nvidia Shield TV Pro and installed the LB APK. It loads fine but when I go to add roms it crashes during the import process. It is also crashing immediately when I attempt to set the Get Latest Build flag to true. I do have USB storage set up and my roms are located there so I'm assuming that's at least part of the issue? Let me know if I can provide debug logs or any additional info. Edited January 27, 2022 by space_plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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