LaunchBox 13.21 - Beta Thread

[e2zippo]

Hey! I'm still getting this error after waking up the computer from sleep.

Not sure if it's the same error as before?

 

[kobaturtle]

I have issues with last beta caused by WMP default player in BigBox

- stutter between system transition in Colorful theme (Flawless with VLC, juts tested with a rollback to 13.20).

- System video randomly not starting result with black screen

- System color missmach in Colorful theme so I guess WMP renders colors differently?

Can you restore VLC option?

 

 

[C-Beats]

On 3/30/2025 at 7:05 AM, xitanul said:

Screenshots are broken and do not appear with most of themes, also you did not fix the freeze problem but just removed the possibility to choose VLC integration from what i see.

Also it will be nice that if disabled update that it does not update without my permission...

Thanks for the report screenshot issue is resolved internally and will be corrected in beta 2

We already respect your setting decision and updates don't update unless you've told us to. Review your options inside of LaunchBox and ensure you do have the auto-update turned off.

[skizzosjt]

2 hours ago, kobaturtle said:

I have issues with last beta caused by WMP default player in BigBox

- stutter between system transition in Colorful theme (Flawless with VLC, juts tested with a rollback to 13.20).

- System video randomly not starting result with black screen

- System color missmach in Colorful theme so I guess WMP renders colors differently?

Can you restore VLC option?

 

 

WMP doesn't seem to support pause/resume properly within Big Box. So when in the platform wheel and you land on a platform, lets say Nintendo 64, the video will start playing. No problems so far. you go into the Nintendo 64 game wheel, and once you are done in the game wheel and back out to the platform wheel the Nintendo 64 platform video does not resume where it left off. it restarts at the beginning of the video. this creates a black screen flash on the video. VLC utilizes pause/resume appropriately by comparison when going into another view or launching a game and returning to the frontend.

[xitanul]

Going in the setting of BigBox and changing something now raise CPU to 100% and even after leaving the program stay inside task manager with full usage of processor. Windows 10

Edited Monday at 04:41 PM by xitanul

[faeran]

On 3/28/2025 at 10:51 PM, TheNewClassics said:

Something funky is happening with game screenshots for me. I'm using Default Critical Zone, and the game screenshot with show up for a second and then vanish. This is when I'm scrolling through the games. 

On 3/30/2025 at 7:05 AM, xitanul said:

Screenshots are broken and do not appear with most of themes, also you did not fix the freeze problem but just removed the possibility to choose VLC integration from what i see.

Also it will be nice that if disabled update that it does not update without my permission...

Thanks. We've managed to recreate the screenshot issue and it will be fixed in the second beta. Would love to hear if Big Box is still freezing in this beta. The goal is to weed out different issues that people have lumped into one issue, and then move forward in beta 2.

6 hours ago, e2zippo said:

Hey! I'm still getting this error after waking up the computer from sleep.

Not sure if it's the same error as before?

 

Potentially the same issue. The issue is the different levels of sleep that Windows machines can go into. Do you know how long your computer was asleep for before you woke it up and ran into this issue. Do you also know what settings you have for which type of sleep your computer goes into. Also, are you running this on a laptop or desktop?

On 3/29/2025 at 10:18 AM, dbalcar said:

RetroArch not showing correct version in the emulator management window.  I have 2 RetroArch installs and my RetroArch 2023 is at version 1.20.0 but the LB management window shows 1.16.0.   The RetroArch 2024 arcade is correct at version 1.16.0
Thanks

Thanks. Was able to recreate this issue and we'll have it fixed in beta 2.

On 3/29/2025 at 10:47 AM, Rlad said:

Maybe require the packs to have the main five category logos so you dont have this oddness.

i now we can change them ourselves im just thinking from a noob friendly POV.

A limitation to those sets. If a set doesn't have a logo created for it, it will default back to the default set. Hey, if someone wants to create versions of those categories, I can add them to the sets!

3 hours ago, skizzosjt said:

WMP doesn't seem to support pause/resume properly within Big Box. So when in the platform wheel and you land on a platform, lets say Nintendo 64, the video will start playing. No problems so far. you go into the Nintendo 64 game wheel, and once you are done in the game wheel and back out to the platform wheel the Nintendo 64 platform video does not resume where it left off. it restarts at the beginning of the video. this creates a black screen flash on the video. VLC utilizes pause/resume appropriately by comparison when going into another view or launching a game and returning to the frontend.

We'll look into if this is possible for WMP to support. I really hope so.

3 hours ago, xitanul said:

Going in the setting of BigBox and changing something now raise CPU to 100% and even after leaving the program stay inside task manager with full usage of processor. Windows 10

Not seeing this on any of our test builds. Which option are you changing, or does it matter? If you restart your computer, is it still happening? Is anyone else seeing this happen or not seeing this happen in their builds?

 

Just for a quick update to the Big Box freezing issue. Beta 1 did remove the option to switch to VLC. The goal was to see if this would actually solve the freezing issue for users. So far, from our reports here and other places it seems like it may have removed the freezing for the majority of users that were facing that issue, which does confirm our suspicion. Step 2 is what we are going to do about WMP playing nicer in the situations you guys are bringing up here. We already are in the process of working towards this goal, and beta 2 will have some of those solutions in there for you guys to test.

At this point, we burned about 2 weeks on looking at VLC and trying to figure out what the issue may be with it. It's not an issue with what we are doing with VLC, and it's not an issue with VLC itself. Our findings show that the issue seems to be lying in the third party dependency that we use, which wraps up VLC into something usable in WPF applications. The wrapper hasn't been updated in forever, and we'd be beholden to the author to either provide an update to it, or we'd need to start from scratch and find another solution that can wrap VLC up into something usable in a WPF application. We haven't given up, but the time it would take (and risks involved) would be very significant, especially for what we have investigated so far, and if we are looking to build something up from scratch, then it might be a good time to dig deeper and find a more robust solution than we've ever had.

[MrDeKat]

I've only had a little issue with RetroAchievements achievements: Launchbox dont' show the achievements when the platforms between RetroAchievements and Launchbox are differents.

For example: the Othello Multivision games are integrated into the SG-1000 platform in RA. The ROMs loaded into Launchbox using the Othello Multivision platform don't show the achievements. However, if they are loaded into the SG-1000 platform, they show the achievements correctly.

The same happens with Nintendo DSi, Nintendo Satellaview, WonderSwan Color, Neo Geo Pocket Color, NEC SuperGrafx, PSP Mini or Nintendo 64DD games.

[faeran]

4 minutes ago, MrDeKat said:

I've only had a little issue with RetroAchievements achievements: Launchbox dont' show the achievements when the platforms between RetroAchievements and Launchbox are differents.

For example: the Othello Multivision games are integrated into the SG-1000 platform in RA. The ROMs loaded into Launchbox using the Othello Multivision platform don't show the achievements. However, if they are loaded into the SG-1000 platform, they show the achievements correctly.

The same happens with Nintendo DSi, Nintendo Satellaview, WonderSwan Color, Neo Geo Pocket Color, NEC SuperGrafx, PSP Mini or Nintendo 64DD games.

Thanks, we'll look into what we can do about this. I believe it's simply a database change we'll need to make, but something might surprise me.

Sounds like we may need a dedicated thread for this type of this in the future.

[e2zippo]

9 hours ago, faeran said:

 

Potentially the same issue. The issue is the different levels of sleep that Windows machines can go into. Do you know how long your computer was asleep for before you woke it up and ran into this issue. Do you also know what settings you have for which type of sleep your computer goes into. Also, are you running this on a laptop or desktop?

 

It think it might have been overnight this time. I use Hybrid Sleep

I have a desktop.

[launchretrogirl2562]

On 3/31/2025 at 1:21 PM, e2zippo said:

Hey! I'm still getting this error after waking up the computer from sleep.

Not sure if it's the same error as before?

 

I also experienced this error. Just from hybrid sleep.

[skizzosjt]

On 3/31/2025 at 4:34 PM, faeran said:

We'll look into if this is possible for WMP to support. I really hope so.

In my opinion pause/resume support is hardly as important as figuring out why support for webm format videos are so hit and miss. audio does not play for many webm videos only in Big Box despite said webm videos playing with sound fine when played through WMP outside of Big Box. VLC in Big Box handled all webm format videos OK by comparison.

[Fursphere]

35 minutes ago, skizzosjt said:

In my opinion pause/resume support is hardly as important as figuring out why support for webm format videos are so hit and miss. audio does not play for many webm videos only in Big Box despite said webm videos playing with sound fine when played through WMP outside of Big Box. VLC in Big Box handled all webm format videos OK by comparison.

Did you install the 3rd party Codex pack?    WMP needs it.    The 'K-Lite' Codec pack pretty much fixes all issues for WMP...    https://codecguide.com/download_kl.htm