11.3-beta-1 Released

wallmachine · August 4, 2020

Updated to Beta 7 and it just randomly crashed in BigBox in the following View 'TextGamesView.xaml/TextListView.xaml' when moving between games.

2020-08-05 08:36:16 AM All necessary config files and folders now confirmed to exist.
2020-08-05 08:36:41 AM DataManager.SaveInternal started.
2020-08-05 08:36:41 AM Saving InputBindings.xml...
2020-08-05 08:36:42 AM Saving ListCache.xml...
2020-08-05 08:36:43 AM Saving Settings.xml...
2020-08-05 08:36:43 AM DataManager.SaveInternal completed successfully.
2020-08-05 08:36:45 AM FIRST CHANCE EXCEPTION: Could not find file 'F:\LaunchBox\Sounds\HyperSpin\Startup.wav'.
   at System.IO.FileStream.ValidateFileHandle(SafeFileHandle fileHandle)
2020-08-05 08:36:49 AM Music.Pause Start
2020-08-05 08:36:49 AM Music.Resume Start
2020-08-05 08:36:49 AM Music.Resume Start
2020-08-05 08:36:54 AM Music.Initialize Start
2020-08-05 08:36:54 AM Music.Kill Start
2020-08-05 08:36:54 AM Music.Kill Finished
2020-08-05 08:41:21 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:21 AM FIRST CHANCE EXCEPTION: ImageSourceConverter cannot convert from System.String.
   at System.ComponentModel.TypeConverter.GetConvertFromException(Object value)
2020-08-05 08:41:21 AM FIRST CHANCE EXCEPTION: ImageSourceConverter cannot convert from System.String.
   at System.ComponentModel.TypeConverter.GetConvertFromException(Object value)
   at System.ComponentModel.TypeConverter.ConvertFrom(ITypeDescriptorContext context, CultureInfo culture, Object value)
   at System.Windows.Media.ImageSourceConverter.ConvertFrom(ITypeDescriptorContext context, CultureInfo culture, Object value)
2020-08-05 08:41:21 AM FIRST CHANCE EXCEPTION: ImageSourceConverter cannot convert from System.String.
   at MS.Internal.Data.DefaultValueConverter.ConvertHelper(Object o, Type destinationType, DependencyObject targetElement, CultureInfo culture, Boolean isForward)
2020-08-05 08:41:21 AM Music.Kill Start
2020-08-05 08:41:21 AM Music.Kill Finished
2020-08-05 08:41:23 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:23 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:29 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:29 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:29 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:30 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:33 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:33 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:35 AM DataManager.SaveInternal started.
2020-08-05 08:41:35 AM Saving InputBindings.xml...
2020-08-05 08:41:36 AM Saving ListCache.xml...
2020-08-05 08:41:36 AM Saving Platforms.xml...
2020-08-05 08:41:37 AM Saving Settings.xml...
2020-08-05 08:41:38 AM Saving BigBoxSettings.xml...
2020-08-05 08:41:39 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:39 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:39 AM Saving F:\LaunchBox\Data\Platforms\Sega Genesis.xml...
2020-08-05 08:41:39 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:39 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:40 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:40 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:40 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:40 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:41 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:41 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start

Edited August 4, 2020 by wallmachine

Jason Carr · August 4, 2020

2 minutes ago, wallmachine said:

Updated to Beta 7 and it just randomly crashed in BigBox in the following View 'TextGamesView.xaml/TextListView.xaml' when moving between games.


2020-08-05 08:36:16 AM All necessary config files and folders now confirmed to exist.
2020-08-05 08:36:41 AM DataManager.SaveInternal started.
2020-08-05 08:36:41 AM Saving InputBindings.xml...
2020-08-05 08:36:42 AM Saving ListCache.xml...
2020-08-05 08:36:43 AM Saving Settings.xml...
2020-08-05 08:36:43 AM DataManager.SaveInternal completed successfully.
2020-08-05 08:36:45 AM FIRST CHANCE EXCEPTION: Could not find file 'F:\LaunchBox\Sounds\HyperSpin\Startup.wav'.
   at System.IO.FileStream.ValidateFileHandle(SafeFileHandle fileHandle)
2020-08-05 08:36:49 AM Music.Pause Start
2020-08-05 08:36:49 AM Music.Resume Start
2020-08-05 08:36:49 AM Music.Resume Start
2020-08-05 08:36:54 AM Music.Initialize Start
2020-08-05 08:36:54 AM Music.Kill Start
2020-08-05 08:36:54 AM Music.Kill Finished
2020-08-05 08:41:21 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:21 AM FIRST CHANCE EXCEPTION: ImageSourceConverter cannot convert from System.String.
   at System.ComponentModel.TypeConverter.GetConvertFromException(Object value)
2020-08-05 08:41:21 AM FIRST CHANCE EXCEPTION: ImageSourceConverter cannot convert from System.String.
   at System.ComponentModel.TypeConverter.GetConvertFromException(Object value)
   at System.ComponentModel.TypeConverter.ConvertFrom(ITypeDescriptorContext context, CultureInfo culture, Object value)
   at System.Windows.Media.ImageSourceConverter.ConvertFrom(ITypeDescriptorContext context, CultureInfo culture, Object value)
2020-08-05 08:41:21 AM FIRST CHANCE EXCEPTION: ImageSourceConverter cannot convert from System.String.
   at MS.Internal.Data.DefaultValueConverter.ConvertHelper(Object o, Type destinationType, DependencyObject targetElement, CultureInfo culture, Boolean isForward)
2020-08-05 08:41:21 AM Music.Kill Start
2020-08-05 08:41:21 AM Music.Kill Finished
2020-08-05 08:41:23 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:23 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:29 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:29 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:29 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:30 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:33 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:33 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:35 AM DataManager.SaveInternal started.
2020-08-05 08:41:35 AM Saving InputBindings.xml...
2020-08-05 08:41:36 AM Saving ListCache.xml...
2020-08-05 08:41:36 AM Saving Platforms.xml...
2020-08-05 08:41:37 AM Saving Settings.xml...
2020-08-05 08:41:38 AM Saving BigBoxSettings.xml...
2020-08-05 08:41:39 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:39 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:39 AM Saving F:\LaunchBox\Data\Platforms\Sega Genesis.xml...
2020-08-05 08:41:39 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:39 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:40 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:40 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:40 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:40 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:41 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start
2020-08-05 08:41:41 AM Music.StopAndResumeBackground Start

Any plugins installed? Unfortunately that log doesn't give us any useful information.

wallmachine · August 4, 2020

2 minutes ago, Jason Carr said:

Any plugins installed? Unfortunately that log doesn't give us any useful information.

Unfortunately thats all it gave me.

Plugin = Ao.Bigbox.Themer.v3_9_7.dll

=============================================
# AO.BIGBOX ASSEMBLY LOGGER =================
# Ao.Bigbox.XX Version = 3.9.7.0 by eatkinola
# LaunchBox/BB Version = 11.3.0.7 BigBox
=============================================
2020-08-05 08:36:49 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (BigBoxStartupCompleted)
2020-08-05 08:36:50 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:20 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:23 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:29 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:29 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:29 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:30 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:33 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:38 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:39 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:39 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:40 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:40 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:40 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:41 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)
2020-08-05 08:41:41 [Ao.Bigbox.Plugins.SystemEventRouter] blocked duplicate OnEventRaised event (SelectionChanged)

wallmachine · August 4, 2020

what happens:

Edited August 4, 2020 by wallmachine

Jason Carr · August 4, 2020

5 minutes ago, Wanderer189 said:

My videos are no longer displaying since beta6 or in beta 7. Using latest VLC player. Is there some place it they may have got ticked off or something? Or a new setting for them? They are working fine in BB, just not LB

Where are they not displaying?

3 minutes ago, wallmachine said:

what happens:

I see. Can you confirm if it's caused by that plugin or not? Does it happen with other themes or without that plugin? I hope we can get that plugin working, but we might hit a wall on that (might need to hit up @eatkinola to get his help to determine what's going on, since we don't have the source code).

wallmachine · August 4, 2020

26 minutes ago, Jason Carr said:

Where are they not displaying?

I see. Can you confirm if it's caused by that plugin or not? Does it happen with other themes or without that plugin? I hope we can get that plugin working, but we might hit a wall on that (might need to hit up @eatkinola to get his help to determine what's going on, since we don't have the source code).

too many options added from the plugin to remove. I'll try another theme, a lot of themes use his Plugin and might be a bit hard to get in touch with him as he has been away since June.

Video Snaps of games seem to be playing faster than normal speed, using VLC.

Edited August 4, 2020 by wallmachine

The Papaw · August 4, 2020

@Jason Carr: Hey Jason, got videos fixed, deleted the posts, was the video tick in the game details, have no idea how it got un-ticked?? They no longer auto-play, is that something new?

Edited August 5, 2020 by Wanderer189

Jason Carr · August 5, 2020

@Android16 The stack trace you provided tells me 100% without a doubt that those errors are occurring while loading plugins. So somehow or other, plugins are being loaded. That stack trace error does not occur if there are no plugins to load. It's possible that you are getting a different error without plugins, however. If so, please let me know what that error is.

54 minutes ago, Wanderer189 said:

@Jason Carr: Hey Jason, got videos fixed, deleted the posts, was the video tick in the game details, have no idea how it got un-ticked?? They no longer auto-play, is that something new?

These are all options that are available. You can turn it on under the View menu.

1 hour ago, wallmachine said:

too many options added from the plugin to remove. I'll try another theme, a lot of themes use his Plugin and might be a bit hard to get in touch with him as he has been away since June.

Video Snaps of games seem to be playing faster than normal speed, using VLC.

I've been testing the Colorful - Light and Colorful - Dark themes, and haven't seen any stability issues, and those themes use that exact same Ao.Bigbox.Themer.v3_9_7a.dll plugin without apparent issues. However, that plugin has so many random features that it's possible that there's a bugged feature that Colorful isn't using. Please do let me know if you still see the stability issues with a different theme so we can help to narrow it down.

Can you get me a video of the video snaps playing too fast issue? We did upgrade to the latest version of VLC. I'm not seeing that issue though.

OhBoy · August 5, 2020

@Jason Carr When I import games and group games with the matching names, games that are (beta) are being set as the default version. Is there a way to have betas not be the default? For example Alien vs Predator on Jaguar has 4 versions:

Alien vs Predator (World).j64

Alien vs Predator (World) (Beta) (1994-04-08).j64

Alien vs Predator (World) (Beta) (1993-10-13).j64

Alien vs Predator (World) (Beta) (1993-08-18).j64

Alien vs Predator (World).j64 should be the default version since it's the final version of the game.

wallmachine · August 5, 2020

23 minutes ago, Jason Carr said:

I've been testing the Colorful - Light and Colorful - Dark themes, and haven't seen any stability issues, and those themes use that exact same Ao.Bigbox.Themer.v3_9_7a.dll plugin without apparent issues. However, that plugin has so many random features that it's possible that there's a bugged feature that Colorful isn't using. Please do let me know if you still see the stability issues with a different theme so we can help to narrow it down.

Can you get me a video of the video snaps playing too fast issue? We did upgrade to the latest version of VLC. I'm not seeing that issue though.

1st and 2nd time of opening BigBox it had the stability issue as per the video example, but after the 3rd time it hasn't done it, maybe BigBox is an AI.

Tried Colorful - Light and no stability issue.

Regarding the Video Snaps, they just look faster maybe my eyes haven't adjusted to the day yet.

Jason Carr · August 5, 2020

1 minute ago, Android16 said:

as you can see, ZERO user plugins.

Project references are not user plugins; that's where the confusion lies. Plugins are either located in the LaunchBox\Plugins folder, or the Plugins folder inside of the Big Box theme folder.

Jason Carr · August 5, 2020

2 hours ago, wallmachine said:

1st and 2nd time of opening BigBox it had the stability issue as per the video example, but after the 3rd time it hasn't done it, maybe BigBox is an AI.

Tried Colorful - Light and no stability issue.

Regarding the Video Snaps, they just look faster maybe my eyes haven't adjusted to the day yet.

Muhahahahaha. AI indeed.

Let me know if you have that error happen again.

Jason Carr · August 5, 2020

3 hours ago, OhBoy said:
@Jason Carr When I import games and group games with the matching names, games that are (beta) are being set as the default version. Is there a way to have betas not be the default? For example Alien vs Predator on Jaguar has 4 versions:
Alien vs Predator (World).j64

Alien vs Predator (World) (Beta) (1994-04-08).j64

Alien vs Predator (World) (Beta) (1993-10-13).j64

Alien vs Predator (World) (Beta) (1993-08-18).j64
Alien vs Predator (World).j64 should be the default version since it's the final version of the game.

We'll look into this.

Jason Carr · August 5, 2020

Beta 8 is out now to address some thread priority issues with the image cache and image population getting delayed in LaunchBox.

The Papaw · August 5, 2020

My install hung a couple times during the download process of v13.3.8 as mentioned by others, probably not LB related.

But I am tickled to say, I have had far, far less crashes with v13.3.8.

When I manually add a game, it auto focus' to the game if I have no pre-existing video for it, if I have a pre-existing video, it sometimes crashes, but when it doesn't crash and adds the game, it doesn't auto focus on newly added game, but back to top of the games of the platform.

Getting better and better!

Jason Carr · August 5, 2020

9 minutes ago, Android16 said:

This is how you told me to add user plugins on page 12 jason:

but the pic above clearly shows I have removed all user plugins but you keep saying the error is caused by a plugin that isn't installed. I have created 2 separate launchbox installs. 1 with plugins and 1 without. Same error for the theme that works in 11.1 and below.

I asked you how to add user references on the previous page and that was the answer you gave me. There is no REFERENCES section on the new default theme.

I'm just going to stick to 11.1

I'm obviously not going to get an answer because you have no idea and you're about to get mad again and about to say that I'm trolling

Yup, I'm furious. Not really.

For real though, this was all just caused by confusion and using the wrong words. You didn't realize that plugins and project references are two separate things, apparently. I never told you that they're the same.

Regardless, we're not gonna put up with an attitude like that for much longer, FYI. Fair warning.

Jason Carr · August 5, 2020

4 hours ago, Wanderer189 said:

My install hung a couple times during the download process of v13.3.8 as mentioned by others, probably not LB related.

But I am tickled to say, I have had far, far less crashes with v13.3.8.

When I manually add a game, it auto focus' to the game if I have no pre-existing video for it, if I have a pre-existing video, it sometimes crashes, but when it doesn't crash and adds the game, it doesn't auto focus on newly added game, but back to top of the games of the platform.

Getting better and better!

By "crashes", do you mean legitimate crashes, or just delays within the app? It's best to clarify that "crashes" are when the EXE stops running completely. Error screens or delays in the app are a separate thing.

Jason Carr · August 6, 2020

Beta 9 is out now with the following:

Further threading optimizations
Image fixes for the retro achievements profile popup
Improved ROM prioritization so that prototype/beta games are not prioritized as much
Big Box now runs under Linux Wine

I linked to it just above, but if you're interested in running LaunchBox or Big Box on Linux, see this thread:

sundogak · August 6, 2020

Beta 9: still getting this error if running full setup on Beta 9 and checking the box to install desktop links:

wallmachine · August 6, 2020

13 minutes ago, sundogak said:

Beta 9: still getting this error if running full setup on Beta 9 and checking the box to install desktop links:

I have UAC off so wonder if thats why it works for me?

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